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OT: There are no words for how broken everything is

Started bySteven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info>
First post2016-01-12 15:26 +1100
Last post2016-01-12 06:36 -0800
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  OT: There are no words for how broken everything is Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2016-01-12 15:26 +1100
    Re: OT: There are no words for how broken everything is Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2016-01-11 22:43 -0800
      Re: OT: There are no words for how broken everything is Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2016-01-12 10:30 +0200
        Re: OT: There are no words for how broken everything is Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2016-01-12 19:37 +1100
    Re: OT: There are no words for how broken everything is wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2016-01-12 06:36 -0800

#101515 — OT: There are no words for how broken everything is

FromSteven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info>
Date2016-01-12 15:26 +1100
SubjectOT: There are no words for how broken everything is
Message-ID<56948066$0$11120$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com>
There are no words to explain just how broken everything is. This post 
tries:

https://medium.com/message/everything-is-broken-81e5f33a24e1

but barely covers even a fraction of the breakage.

Thanks goodness for anti-virus, right?

One of the leading anti-virus vendors in the world, TrendMicro, has been 
opening their victims^W users' computers to trivially-discoverable remote 
execution attacks, exposing passwords to the internet, and running an old 
and insecure browser with security settings disabled (no sandbox).

https://code.google.com/p/google-security-research/issues/detail?id=693


What's the worst security screw-up you've seen? The worst I've seen was a 
sys admin I used to work with who put a new Linux server on the internet 
with root ssh enabled. Guess what password he used for the root account? 
"test". Guess how long it took before it was broken into? Less than two 
hours.

That is at the top of my list only because I can prove exactly what 
happened. Otherwise it would be an incident that I can't completely explain. 
I have my suspicions, but I'm not entire sure what happened.

This was one of the last incidents that drove me off Windows. I was running 
Windows XP, protected behind a firewall, with commercial up-to-date anti-
virus installed. I started up Windows update one day, and went out for a few 
hours, and came back to find the computer absolutely swarming with malware 
and the firewall turned off. I don't know what happened, I can only guess 
that the Windows update process turned off the firewall, but I don't really 
know. All I know is that whatever it was, it was a completely automated 
attack, as nobody was home to click on any buttons or visit any dubious 
websites.

Took me three weeks to remove the last of the malware, and another two weeks 
to track down the cause of an annoying glitch where every 30 seconds the PC 
would freeze up for a fraction of a second. It was one of the anti-virus 
programs I had installed.



-- 
Steve

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#101520

FromRick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com>
Date2016-01-11 22:43 -0800
Message-ID<965849d1-1b64-4788-8bfd-18f01a4293a6@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#101515
On Monday, January 11, 2016 at 10:26:40 PM UTC-6, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> [...]
> Took me three weeks to remove the last of the malware, and another two weeks 
> to track down the cause of an annoying glitch where every 30 seconds the PC 
> would freeze up for a fraction of a second. It was one of the anti-virus 
> programs I had installed.

Three weeks??? Dude, you could have rebuilt the system in a few hours! :-) But this is *WAY* off topic. Hey Steven, they have these new inventions now called "blogs", maybe you should sign up for one? Heck, *I* even have a blog now!

  http://arantadaykeepsthemonstersaway.blogspot.com/

PS: And there's an nice Easter Egg on my google profile you might enjoy. *wink*

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#101530

FromMarko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net>
Date2016-01-12 10:30 +0200
Message-ID<87egdn5he8.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net>
In reply to#101520
Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com>:

> they have these new inventions now called "blogs", maybe you should
> sign up for one?

"Sign up for a blog?" What does that mean?

Is it like creating a computer program or starting a company: you sign
up for one?

Anyway, why not use Usenet what it is meant for: discussions.


Marko

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#101531

FromChris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com>
Date2016-01-12 19:37 +1100
Message-ID<mailman.49.1452587878.13488.python-list@python.org>
In reply to#101530
On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 7:30 PM, Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> wrote:
> Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com>:
>
>> they have these new inventions now called "blogs", maybe you should
>> sign up for one?
>
> "Sign up for a blog?" What does that mean?
>
> Is it like creating a computer program or starting a company: you sign
> up for one?

It means getting someone to put up a sign saying "BLOG". I'm sure you
can find professional signwriters in your area.

ChrisA

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#101544

Fromwxjmfauth@gmail.com
Date2016-01-12 06:36 -0800
Message-ID<c5ecc163-9629-4033-9a05-8522b88aa627@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#101515
Le mardi 12 janvier 2016 05:26:40 UTC+1, Steven D'Aprano a écrit :
> There are no words to explain just how broken everything is.

There are even people who tried to "re-invent Unicode" and
they do not see, they failed.


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