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Re: [OT] Quick intro to C++ for a Python and C user?

From Roy Smith <roy@panix.com>
Newsgroups comp.lang.python
Subject Re: [OT] Quick intro to C++ for a Python and C user?
Date 2011-12-21 09:26 -0500
Organization PANIX Public Access Internet and UNIX, NYC
Message-ID <roy-23DCD1.09260421122011@news.panix.com> (permalink)
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In article <9le7c5F1lsU1@mid.individual.net>,
 Neil Cerutti <neilc@norwich.edu> wrote:

> On 2011-12-20, Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> > Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> writes:
> >> Oops. I should have mentioned this is for embedded systems
> >> programming so templates in general (and STL in particular)
> >> are probably off the table.
> >
> > Templates are how C++ does generics and I'd expect them to
> > appear in be used in embedded programming as well as elsewhere.
> > They can bloat up the code if you're not careful (if function f
> > has several parameters, you can end up with a separate,
> > specialized copy of f for every combination of types that f is
> > called with in the program), but in the typical monomorphic
> > situation they don't add any overhead.  I'm not sure about the
> > situation with STL.  Anyway, templates aren't terribly hard to
> > understand.
> 
> Moreover, if you don't plan to take advantage of templates or
> inheritance, then you could as well write C++ compatible C and be
> pretty happy with the results.

Well, C++ still gives you constructors, destructors, and the ability to 
write class-specific operators.

But, you'd be missing one of C++'s biggest selling points; safe 
containers.  Even if you never explore anything in STL beyond std:string 
and std:vector, you will have saved yourself a world of buffer overflow 
pain.

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[OT] Quick intro to C++ for a Python and C user? Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2011-12-20 17:40 +0000
  Re: [OT] Quick intro to C++ for a Python and C user? Neil Cerutti <neilc@norwich.edu> - 2011-12-20 18:36 +0000
    Re: [OT] Quick intro to C++ for a Python and C user? Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2011-12-20 20:41 +0000
      Re: [OT] Quick intro to C++ for a Python and C user? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2011-12-20 13:00 -0800
        Re: [OT] Quick intro to C++ for a Python and C user? Neil Cerutti <neilc@norwich.edu> - 2011-12-21 14:04 +0000
          Re: [OT] Quick intro to C++ for a Python and C user? Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2011-12-21 09:26 -0500
          Re: [OT] Quick intro to C++ for a Python and C user? Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2011-12-21 15:37 +0000
            Re: [OT] Quick intro to C++ for a Python and C user? Neil Cerutti <neilc@norwich.edu> - 2011-12-21 16:16 +0000
              Re: [OT] Quick intro to C++ for a Python and C user? Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2011-12-21 21:02 +0000
                Re: [OT] Quick intro to C++ for a Python and C user? Ethan Furman <ethan@stoneleaf.us> - 2011-12-21 13:15 -0800
                Re: [OT] Quick intro to C++ for a Python and C user? Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2011-12-21 20:02 -0500
                Re: [OT] Quick intro to C++ for a Python and C user? Neil Cerutti <neilc@norwich.edu> - 2011-12-22 13:19 +0000
  Re: [OT] Quick intro to C++ for a Python and C user? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2011-12-20 11:43 -0800
  Re: [OT] Quick intro to C++ for a Python and C user? Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2011-12-20 20:51 +0000
    Re: [OT] Quick intro to C++ for a Python and C user? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2011-12-20 13:06 -0800

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