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Re: Method default argument whose type is the class not yet defined

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In article <mailman.3570.1352682390.27098.python-list@python.org>,
 Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> On 12/11/2012 00:31, Oscar Benjamin wrote:
> >
> > Plain wrong. Vectors are not defined *from any origin*.
> >
> 
> So when the Captain says "full speed ahead, steer 245 degrees", you 
> haven't the faintest idea where you're going, because you have no origin?

Vectors have a length ("full speed ahead") and a direction ("245 
degrees").  What they don't have is a fixed location in space.  The 
captain didn't say, "Full speed ahead, steer 245 degrees, from 45.0N, 
20.0W".

In other words, you are correct.  The order, "full speed ahead, steer 
245 degrees", doesn't give you the faintest idea of where you're going.  
If you were the helmsman, after you executed that order, without any 
additional information (such as your current location), you would have 
no idea what piece of land you will hit, or when you will hit it, if you 
maintain your current course and speed.

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Method default argument whose type is the class not yet defined Jennie <nameDOTportua@gmail.com> - 2012-11-10 20:33 +0100
  Re: Method default argument whose type is the class not yet defined Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-11-11 06:56 +1100
  Re: Method default argument whose type is the class not yet defined Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2012-11-10 15:29 -0500
    Re: Method default argument whose type is the class not yet defined Jennie <nameDOTportua@gmail.com> - 2012-11-10 21:51 +0100
      Re: Method default argument whose type is the class not yet defined Dave Angel <d@davea.name> - 2012-11-10 17:30 -0500
    Re: Method default argument whose type is the class not yet defined Jennie <marco.buttu@gmail.com> - 2012-11-10 21:51 +0100
  Re: Method default argument whose type is the class not yet defined Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-11-11 01:13 +0000
    Re: Method default argument whose type is the class not yet defined Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-11-11 13:13 +1100
    Re: Method default argument whose type is the class not yet defined Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2012-11-10 19:43 -0700
      Re: Method default argument whose type is the class not yet defined Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2012-11-10 21:53 -0500
        Re: Method default argument whose type is the class not yet defined Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2012-11-10 23:43 -0700
        Re: Method default argument whose type is the class not yet defined Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2012-11-10 23:45 -0700
    Re: Method default argument whose type is the class not yet defined Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-11-11 13:47 +1100
    Re: Method default argument whose type is the class not yet defined Oscar Benjamin <oscar.j.benjamin@gmail.com> - 2012-11-11 14:21 +0000
      Re: Method default argument whose type is the class not yet defined Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-11-11 22:31 +0000
        Re: Method default argument whose type is the class not yet defined Oscar Benjamin <oscar.j.benjamin@gmail.com> - 2012-11-12 00:31 +0000
          Re: Method default argument whose type is the class not yet defined Steve Howell <showell30@yahoo.com> - 2012-11-11 16:56 -0800
          Re: Method default argument whose type is the class not yet defined Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-11-12 04:46 +0000
        Re: Method default argument whose type is the class not yet defined Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-11-12 01:10 +0000
          Re: Method default argument whose type is the class not yet defined Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2012-11-11 20:15 -0500
            Re: Method default argument whose type is the class not yet defined Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-11-12 01:35 +0000
        Re: Method default argument whose type is the class not yet defined Oscar Benjamin <oscar.j.benjamin@gmail.com> - 2012-11-12 01:18 +0000
          Re: Method default argument whose type is the class not yet defined Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2012-11-11 20:34 -0500
        Re: Method default argument whose type is the class not yet defined Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-11-12 01:29 +0000
        Re: Method default argument whose type is the class not yet defined Oscar Benjamin <oscar.j.benjamin@gmail.com> - 2012-11-12 01:50 +0000
  Re: Method default argument whose type is the class not yet defined Oscar Benjamin <oscar.j.benjamin@gmail.com> - 2012-11-11 01:23 +0000
  Re: Method default argument whose type is the class not yet defined Steve Howell <showell30@yahoo.com> - 2012-11-11 16:32 -0800

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