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Re: sum() requires number, not simply __add__

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On 23 February 2012 22:04, Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 8:59 AM, Arnaud Delobelle <arnodel@gmail.com> wrote:
>> def sum(iterable, start=_sentinel, _sentinel=_sentinel):
>
> Is this a reason for Python to introduce a new syntax, such as:
>
> def foo(blah, optional=del):
>    if optional is del: print("No argument was provided")
>
> Basically, 'del' is treated like a unique non-providable object, only
> possible in an argument list and only if the argument was omitted. No
> more proliferation of individual sentinels... what do you think?

The problem with these proposals is to avoid the leakage of 'del'.
Here you could do:

def get_del(x=del):
    return x

And then you're in trouble again.

-- 
Arnaud

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sum() requires number, not simply __add__ Buck Golemon <buck@yelp.com> - 2012-02-23 13:19 -0800
  Re: sum() requires number, not simply __add__ Buck Golemon <buck@yelp.com> - 2012-02-23 13:23 -0800
    Re: sum() requires number, not simply __add__ Arnaud Delobelle <arnodel@gmail.com> - 2012-02-23 21:41 +0000
    Re: sum() requires number, not simply __add__ Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-02-24 08:53 +1100
      Re: sum() requires number, not simply __add__ Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-02-23 23:33 +0000
        Re: sum() requires number, not simply __add__ Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-02-24 10:39 +1100
        Re: sum() requires number, not simply __add__ Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2012-02-24 12:41 +0100
          Re: sum() requires number, not simply __add__ Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2012-02-24 08:23 -0500
            Re: sum() requires number, not simply __add__ Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2012-02-24 16:58 -0500
    Re: sum() requires number, not simply __add__ Arnaud Delobelle <arnodel@gmail.com> - 2012-02-23 21:59 +0000
    Re: sum() requires number, not simply __add__ Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2012-02-23 15:00 -0700
    Re: sum() requires number, not simply __add__ Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-02-24 09:04 +1100
    Re: sum() requires number, not simply __add__ Arnaud Delobelle <arnodel@gmail.com> - 2012-02-23 22:09 +0000
  Re: sum() requires number, not simply __add__ Arnaud Delobelle <arnodel@gmail.com> - 2012-02-23 21:32 +0000
  Re: sum() requires number, not simply __add__ Chris Rebert <clp2@rebertia.com> - 2012-02-23 13:32 -0800
    Re: sum() requires number, not simply __add__ Buck Golemon <buck@yelp.com> - 2012-02-23 13:38 -0800
      Re: sum() requires number, not simply __add__ Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2012-02-23 14:54 -0700
  Re: sum() requires number, not simply __add__ Stefan Behnel <stefan_ml@behnel.de> - 2012-02-23 22:42 +0100
    Re: sum() requires number, not simply __add__ Duncan Booth <duncan.booth@invalid.invalid> - 2012-02-24 11:40 +0000
  Re: sum() requires number, not simply __add__ Peter Otten <__peter__@web.de> - 2012-02-24 09:29 +0100

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