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Re: Documentation, assignment in expression.

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Date Sun, 25 Mar 2012 08:48:31 -0500
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On 03/25/12 08:11, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 12:03 AM, Tim Chase
> <python.list@tim.thechases.com>  wrote:
>> Granted, this can be turned into an iterator with a yield, making the issue
>> somewhat moot:
>
> No, just moving the issue to the iterator. Your iterator has exactly
> the same structure in it.

Yeah, it has the same structure internally, but I'm somewhat 
surprised that the DB connection object doesn't have an 
__iter__() that does something like this automatically under the 
covers.

> Personally, I quite like assignment-in-conditional notation. Yes, it's
> a pretty common cause of problems; but what happened to the
> "consenting adults" policy? Python permits operator overloading and
> even the reassignment of builtins, both of which can cause similar
> confusion.

In my past years of C programming, I've accidentally omitted the 
second "=" in a comparison test numerous times, requiring me to 
track down the missing character.  When I finally catch it, it's 
obvious what the problem is, but I've come to love having Python 
yell at me contextually.

> But, that's the choice Python's made. And being able to use the same
> symbol for assignment and comparison does have its advantages.

The old curmudgeon in me likes the Pascal method of using "=" for 
equality-testing, and ":=" for assignment which feels a little 
closer to mathematical use of "=".

-tkc

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Documentation, assignment in expression. Alexander Blinne <news@blinne.net> - 2012-03-23 23:59 +0100
  Re: Documentation, assignment in expression. Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2012-03-23 21:09 -0400
    Re: Documentation, assignment in expression. Alexander Blinne <news@blinne.net> - 2012-03-25 14:18 +0200
      Re: Documentation, assignment in expression. Tim Chase <python.list@tim.thechases.com> - 2012-03-25 08:03 -0500
        Re: Documentation, assignment in expression. Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-03-26 05:36 +0000
          Re: Documentation, assignment in expression. Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2012-03-26 12:00 -0400
        Re: Documentation, assignment in expression. Thomas Rachel <nutznetz-0c1b6768-bfa9-48d5-a470-7603bd3aa915@spamschutz.glglgl.de> - 2012-03-26 15:59 +0200
          Re: Documentation, assignment in expression. Tim Chase <python.list@tim.thechases.com> - 2012-03-26 12:42 -0500
      Re: Documentation, assignment in expression. Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-03-26 00:11 +1100
      Re: Documentation, assignment in expression. Tim Chase <python.list@tim.thechases.com> - 2012-03-25 08:48 -0500
        Re: Documentation, assignment in expression. Kiuhnm <kiuhnm03.4t.yahoo.it> - 2012-03-25 17:16 +0200
          Re: Documentation, assignment in expression. Tim Chase <python.list@tim.thechases.com> - 2012-03-25 13:22 -0500
          Re: Documentation, assignment in expression. Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-03-26 05:47 +0000
          Re: Documentation, assignment in expression. Devin Jeanpierre <jeanpierreda@gmail.com> - 2012-03-26 04:52 -0400
            Re: Documentation, assignment in expression. Kiuhnm <kiuhnm03.4t.yahoo.it> - 2012-03-26 12:56 +0200
              Re: Documentation, assignment in expression. Jussi Piitulainen <jpiitula@ling.helsinki.fi> - 2012-03-26 14:13 +0300
                Re: Documentation, assignment in expression. Kiuhnm <kiuhnm03.4t.yahoo.it> - 2012-03-26 13:58 +0200
        Re: Documentation, assignment in expression. rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2012-03-25 09:17 -0700
        Re: Documentation, assignment in expression. mwilson@the-wire.com - 2012-03-25 19:09 -0400
          Re: Documentation, assignment in expression. Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2012-03-25 22:29 -0400
            Re: Documentation, assignment in expression. mwilson@the-wire.com - 2012-03-26 07:27 -0400
      Re: Documentation, assignment in expression. Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-03-26 01:11 +1100
        Re: Documentation, assignment in expression. Kiuhnm <kiuhnm03.4t.yahoo.it> - 2012-03-25 17:17 +0200
      Re: Documentation, assignment in expression. Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2012-03-25 18:59 -0400
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          Re: Documentation, assignment in expression. Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2012-03-26 12:16 -0400
      Re: Documentation, assignment in expression. Tim Chase <python.list@tim.thechases.com> - 2012-03-26 05:14 -0500
  Re: Documentation, assignment in expression. Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2012-03-23 21:37 -0400

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