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| Date | Sun, 6 Apr 2014 18:32:23 +1000 |
| Subject | Re: How can I parse this correctly? |
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On Sun, Apr 6, 2014 at 6:16 PM, Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> wrote:
>> print int(row['YEAR'] or 0000)
>
> “foo or bar” is not a Pythonic way to get a default value; it relies on
> quirks of implementation and is not expressive as to the meaning you
> intend.
>
> Rather, be explicit:
>
> # Default to the beginning of the project.
> year = 1969
> if row['YEAR']:
> # Use the value as a text representation of a year.
> year = int(row['YEAR'])
What's wrong with "foo or bar" as a means of defaulting a blank
string? (Obviously this assumes you know you have a string, as it'll
equally default a 0 or a 0.0 or a [] or anything else false.) The
definition of the "or" operator is that it returns its first argument
if it's true, otherwise it returns its second argument. That's not a
quirk of implementation. This exact example (with strings, no less!)
can be found in help("or") and in the docs:
https://docs.python.org/3/reference/expressions.html#boolean-operations
ChrisA
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Re: How can I parse this correctly? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-04-06 18:32 +1000
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