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Re: Mutable objects inside tuples - good or bad?

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From Devin Jeanpierre <jeanpierreda@gmail.com>
Date 2014-04-06 00:55 -0700
Subject Re: Mutable objects inside tuples - good or bad?
Newsgroups comp.lang.python
Message-ID <mailman.8940.1396771007.18130.python-list@python.org> (permalink)

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On Sun, Apr 6, 2014 at 12:25 AM, Gary Herron
<gary.herron@islandtraining.com> wrote:
> On 04/05/2014 11:53 PM, John Ladasky wrote:
>>
>> I find this programming pattern to be useful... but can it cause problems?
>
> No.
>
> What kind of problems are you considering?  It won't break Python. It's
> perfectly legal code.

Agreed. Putting mutable objects inside tuples is common and totally OK.

> The tuple c is still immutable, consisting of two specific objects, and (as
> always) without regard to the specifics or contents of those two objects.

You can choose to define mutability that way, but in many contexts
you'll find that definition not very useful.

c is such that you could have another variable d, where the following
interpreter session fragment is easily possible:

>>> c == d
True
>>> foo(c)
>>> c == d
False

-- Devin

>> Python 3.3.2+ (default, Feb 28 2014, 00:52:16)
>> [GCC 4.8.1] on linux
>> Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
>>>>>
>>>>> a = [1,2,3]
>>>>> b = [4,5,6]
>>>>> c = (a,b)
>>>>> c
>>
>> ([1, 2, 3], [4, 5, 6])
>>>>>
>>>>> c[0][0] = 0
>>>>> c
>>
>> ([0, 2, 3], [4, 5, 6])
>>
>> Comments appreciated.
>
>
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Mutable objects inside tuples - good or bad? John Ladasky <john_ladasky@sbcglobal.net> - 2014-04-05 23:53 -0700
  Re: Mutable objects inside tuples - good or bad? Gary Herron <gary.herron@islandtraining.com> - 2014-04-06 00:25 -0700
  Re: Mutable objects inside tuples - good or bad? Devin Jeanpierre <jeanpierreda@gmail.com> - 2014-04-06 00:55 -0700
    Re: Mutable objects inside tuples - good or bad? Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-04-06 08:07 -0700
  Re: Mutable objects inside tuples - good or bad? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-04-06 18:25 +1000
  Re: Mutable objects inside tuples - good or bad? Devin Jeanpierre <jeanpierreda@gmail.com> - 2014-04-06 04:01 -0700
  Re: Mutable objects inside tuples - good or bad? Paul Kölle <paul@subsignal.org> - 2014-04-07 17:26 +0200
  Re: Mutable objects inside tuples - good or bad? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-04-08 01:44 +1000
  Re: Mutable objects inside tuples - good or bad? Paul Kölle <paul@subsignal.org> - 2014-04-07 21:46 +0200
  Re: Mutable objects inside tuples - good or bad? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-04-08 08:47 +1000
  Re: Mutable objects inside tuples - good or bad? Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2014-04-07 20:16 -0400
    Re: Mutable objects inside tuples - good or bad? Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-04-08 02:53 +0000

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