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Re: Question about Source Control

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On 24/03/2014 01:26, Terry Reedy wrote:
> On 3/23/2014 6:56 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
>> On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 1:58 AM, Albert-Jan Roskam <fomcl@yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>>> One more thing (so this is not entirely a double post!). While
>>> reading these books I found that the authors were pretty religious
>>> about Clean Commits. I mean, ok, it's not a good idea to do one huge
>>> monolithic commit each month, but I felt they were exaggerating. But
>>> maybe I'm wrong and clean commits become more important when the
>>> number of collaborators get bigger. It's just so easy to fix
>>> something, and e.g. correct that typo in a docstring while you're at it.
>>>
>>
>> It's important even with a single editor. When you go back and look at
>> a commit, you should be able to read the summary and know immediately
>> whether a particular line in it should have been edited or not.
>> Combining changes into a single commit makes that harder.
>>
>> Commits are cheap. Do more of 'em rather than less.
>
> With multiple branches (as with 2.7, 3.4, and default for cpython) and
> multiple active developers (20?) commiting to those brances, commits are
> definitely not free. I would not exactly call them as cheap as you seem
> to imply either. That said, I have occasionally pushed interim changes
> that put code in an improved and stable state.

And consider that this has been simplified, at one point four branches 
plus default were being supported at the same time.

>
> N. Coughlan has suggested improving the cpython infrastructure and
> procedures to reduce the cost of commits to encourage more people to
> make more commits (in the sense of more lines changed, not more pieces)
> and improve cpython faster.
>

Excellent.  The most frustrating part of CPython development from my 
viewpoint is the massive number of open issues on the bug tracker that 
have patches, but simply sit there for years doing nothing except gather 
dust.  Anything that can be done to improve this situation is IMHO long 
overdue and extremely welcome.

-- 
My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask 
what you can do for our language.

Mark Lawrence

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Re: Question about Source Control "Frank Millman" <frank@chagford.com> - 2014-03-18 08:42 +0200
  Re: Question about Source Control Gregory Ewing <greg.ewing@canterbury.ac.nz> - 2014-03-19 10:51 +1300
    Re: Question about Source Control Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2014-03-18 21:38 -0400
    Re: Question about Source Control Tim Chase <python.list@tim.thechases.com> - 2014-03-18 21:12 -0500
      Re: Question about Source Control albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2014-03-22 17:32 +0000
        Re: Question about Source Control Tim Chase <python.list@tim.thechases.com> - 2014-03-22 13:49 -0500
        Re: Question about Source Control Albert-Jan Roskam <fomcl@yahoo.com> - 2014-03-22 13:01 -0700
        Re: Question about Source Control Dave Angel <davea@davea.name> - 2014-03-22 22:18 -0400
        Re: Question about Source Control Albert-Jan Roskam <fomcl@yahoo.com> - 2014-03-23 07:58 -0700
        Re: Question about Source Control Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-24 09:56 +1100
        Re: Question about Source Control Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2014-03-23 21:26 -0400
        Re: Question about Source Control Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-03-24 01:42 +0000
        Re: Question about Source Control Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-24 13:04 +1100
        Re: Question about Source Control Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2014-03-24 00:55 -0400
    Re: Question about Source Control Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-19 13:34 +1100

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