Groups | Search | Server Info | Keyboard shortcuts | Login | Register [http] [https] [nntp] [nntps]
Groups > comp.lang.python > #33651
| Path | csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder1.news.weretis.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!newsfeed.freenet.ag!news2.euro.net!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail |
|---|---|
| Return-Path | <andriy.kornatskyy@live.com> |
| X-Original-To | python-list@python.org |
| Delivered-To | python-list@mail.python.org |
| X-Spam-Status | OK 0.030 |
| X-Spam-Evidence | '*H*': 0.94; '*S*': 0.00; 'frameworks': 0.05; 'already.': 0.09; 'cherrypy,': 0.09; 'counting': 0.09; 'django,': 0.09; 'frameworks.': 0.09; 'turbogears,': 0.09; 'underlying': 0.09; 'complexity,': 0.16; 'kern': 0.16; 'refactoring': 0.16; 'robert,': 0.16; 'tests)': 0.16; 'to:addr:robert.kern': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.17; '(or': 0.18; 'code.': 0.20; '+0000': 0.20; 'respective': 0.20; 'to:name:python-list@python.org': 0.20; 'skip:- 40': 0.21; 'thanks.': 0.21; 'developers.': 0.22; 'interpret': 0.22; 'tells': 0.22; 'to:2**1': 0.23; 'thus': 0.24; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.25; '(e.g.': 0.27; 'bugs': 0.27; "doesn't": 0.28; 'lines': 0.28; 'date:': 0.29; 'url:mailman': 0.29; 'points': 0.29; 'source': 0.29; 'framework': 0.30; 'code': 0.31; 'url:python': 0.32; 'url:listinfo': 0.32; 'certain': 0.33; 'from:addr:live.com': 0.33; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.33; 'likely': 0.33; 'recommended': 0.33; 'list': 0.35; 'nov': 0.35; 'robert': 0.35; 'something': 0.35; 'subject:': 0.36; 'url:org': 0.36; 'email addr:python.org': 0.36; 'thank': 0.36; 'too': 0.36; 'beyond': 0.37; 'level': 0.37; 'subject:: ': 0.38; 'degree': 0.38; 'unit': 0.38; 'from:': 0.38; 'fact': 0.38; 'nothing': 0.38; 'instead': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'end': 0.40; 'url:mail': 0.40; 'url:aspx': 0.60; 'interest': 0.62; 'email name:python-list': 0.62; 'world': 0.63; 'email addr:gmail.com': 0.63; 'here': 0.65; 'our': 0.65; 'due': 0.66; 'subject': 0.66; 'believe': 0.69; 'low': 0.83; 'complexity': 0.84; 'eco': 0.84; 'excessive': 0.84; 'terrible': 0.84; 'url:journal': 0.84; 'comment.': 0.91; 'relate': 0.91; 'charset:windows-1251': 0.97 |
| X-Originating-IP | [213.130.16.2] |
| X-EIP | [hJALXChDbqkk5gufXZzAIDk3HZjdsXZe] |
| X-Originating-Email | [andriy.kornatskyy@live.com] |
| From | Andriy Kornatskyy <andriy.kornatskyy@live.com> |
| To | <robert.kern@gmail.com>, "python-list@python.org" <python-list@python.org> |
| Subject | RE: Web Frameworks Excessive Complexity |
| Date | Tue, 20 Nov 2012 22:46:27 +0300 |
| Importance | Normal |
| In-Reply-To | <k8glsd$vfk$1@ger.gmane.org> |
| References | <k8glsd$vfk$1@ger.gmane.org> |
| Content-Type | text/plain; charset="windows-1251" |
| Content-Transfer-Encoding | quoted-printable |
| MIME-Version | 1.0 |
| X-OriginalArrivalTime | 20 Nov 2012 19:46:27.0500 (UTC) FILETIME=[BAE0F6C0:01CDC757] |
| X-BeenThere | python-list@python.org |
| X-Mailman-Version | 2.1.15 |
| Precedence | list |
| List-Id | General discussion list for the Python programming language <python-list.python.org> |
| List-Unsubscribe | <http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-list>, <mailto:python-list-request@python.org?subject=unsubscribe> |
| List-Archive | <http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/> |
| List-Post | <mailto:python-list@python.org> |
| List-Help | <mailto:python-list-request@python.org?subject=help> |
| List-Subscribe | <http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list>, <mailto:python-list-request@python.org?subject=subscribe> |
| Newsgroups | comp.lang.python |
| Message-ID | <mailman.84.1353440854.29569.python-list@python.org> (permalink) |
| Lines | 51 |
| NNTP-Posting-Host | 2001:888:2000:d::a6 |
| X-Trace | 1353440854 news.xs4all.nl 6910 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:59954 |
| X-Complaints-To | abuse@xs4all.nl |
| Xref | csiph.com comp.lang.python:33651 |
Show key headers only | View raw
Robert, Thank you for the comment. I do not try relate CC with LOC. Instead pointing to excessive complexity, something that is beyond recommended threshold, a subject to refactoring in respective web frameworks. Those areas are likely to be potential source of bugs (e.g. due to low code coverage with unit tests) thus have certain degree of interest to both: end users and framework developers. Thanks. Andriy Kornatskyy ---------------------------------------- > To: python-list@python.org > From: robert.kern@gmail.com > Subject: Re: Web Frameworks Excessive Complexity > Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 19:32:31 +0000 > > On 20/11/2012 17:41, Andriy Kornatskyy wrote: > > > > Cyclomatic (or conditional) complexity is a metric used to indicate the complexity of a source code. Excessive complexity is something that is beyond recommended > > level of 10 (threshold that points to the fact the source code is too > > complex and refactoring is suggested). Here is a list of web frameworks examined: bottle, cherrypy, circuits, > > django, flask, pyramid, pysi, tornado, turbogears, web.py, web2py and > > wheezy.web. > > Cyclomatic complexity tells you nothing that counting lines of code doesn't already. > > http://www.scirp.org/Journal/PaperInformation.aspx?paperID=779 > > -- > Robert Kern > > "I have come to believe that the whole world is an enigma, a harmless enigma > that is made terrible by our own mad attempt to interpret it as though it had > an underlying truth." > -- Umberto Eco > > -- > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Back to comp.lang.python | Previous | Next | Find similar | Unroll thread
RE: Web Frameworks Excessive Complexity Andriy Kornatskyy <andriy.kornatskyy@live.com> - 2012-11-20 22:46 +0300
csiph-web