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| Date | Fri, 14 Mar 2014 10:55:44 +1100 |
| Subject | Re: Deep vs. shallow copy? |
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On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 10:41 AM, Steven D'Aprano
<steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> wrote:
> Are you trolling again?
>
> I'm sure that you know quite well that Python doesn't have a procedure
> type. It uses a single keyword, def, for creating both functions and
> functions-that-return-None.
I'm going to troll for a moment and give you a function that has no
return value.
def procedure():
raise Exception
But seriously, this is something that some functions do when they need
to distinguish between returning something and not returning anything.
Look at a dictionary's subscripting (which is effectively a function
call):
>>> x={1:2}
>>> x[1]
2
>>> x[3]
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "<pyshell#17>", line 1, in <module>
x[3]
KeyError: 3
It can't return None to indicate "there was no such key in the
dictionary", so it raises instead. There's only one way for a Python
function to not have a return value: it has to not return.
ChrisA
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Re: Deep vs. shallow copy? Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-03-13 23:41 +0000
Re: Deep vs. shallow copy? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-14 10:55 +1100
Re: Deep vs. shallow copy? Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-03-14 01:41 +0000
Re: Deep vs. shallow copy? Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2014-03-13 18:08 -0600
Re: Deep vs. shallow copy? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-14 11:22 +1100
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Re: Deep vs. shallow copy? Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-03-13 19:57 -0700
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Re: Deep vs. shallow copy? Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-03-14 06:17 +0000
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