Re: Function defaults

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Date	Mon, 25 Apr 2011 05:30:34 -0700
From	Ken Seehart <ken@seehart.com>
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On 4/25/2011 4:59 AM, Colin J. Williams wrote:
> On 24-Apr-11 13:07 PM, Ken Seehart wrote:
>> On 4/24/2011 2:58 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>>> Consider this in Python 3.1:
>>>
>>>
>>>>>> def f(a=42):
>>> ... return a
>>> ...
>>>>>> f()
>>> 42
>>>>>> f.__defaults__ = (23,)
>>>>>> f()
>>> 23
>>>
>>>
>>> Is this an accident of implementation, or can I trust that changing
>>> function defaults in this fashion is guaranteed to work?
>>
>> This is documented in python 3, so I would expect it to be stable (until
>> python 4, that is)
>> http://docs.python.org/py3k/whatsnew/3.0.html#operators-and-special-methods 
>>
>> http://docs.python.org/py3k/library/inspect.html#types-and-members
>>
>> The f.__defaults__ attribute was previously known as f.func_defaults (in
>> python 2.x), which has been around, documented and stable for quite a
>> while.
>>
>> So it's probably just as safe as any other monkey patching technique. :)
>>
>> Best of luck,
>> Ken
>>
>
> Wouldn't it make more sense to return a dictionary instead of a tuple?
>
> Colin W.
>

I assume you mean making the value of f.__defaults__ a dictionary 
instead of a tuple.

A dictionary would be slower to process since it would have to iterate 
the dictionary keys and assign arguments by name.
Since argument defaults can only be applied to the rightmost contiguous 
sequence of zero or more parameters (excluding *args,**kwargs),  a tuple 
is sufficient to cover all cases, so a dictionary would provide no 
advantage.
Also, a dictionary would produce an unnecessary error case (if a key in 
the dictionary is not the name of an argument).

Good question though.

Cheers,
Ken

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Function __defaults__ Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2011-04-24 09:58 +0000
  Re: Function __defaults__ Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2011-04-24 12:48 -0400
  Re: Function __defaults__ Benjamin Kaplan <benjamin.kaplan@case.edu> - 2011-04-24 13:02 -0400
  Re: Function __defaults__ Daniel Kluev <dan.kluev@gmail.com> - 2011-04-25 04:18 +1100
  Re: Function __defaults__ Ken Seehart <ken@seehart.com> - 2011-04-24 10:07 -0700
    Re: Function __defaults__ Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2011-04-25 02:00 +0000
  Re: Function __defaults__ Ken Seehart <ken@seehart.com> - 2011-04-24 14:44 -0700
  Re: Function __defaults__ Daniel Kluev <dan.kluev@gmail.com> - 2011-04-25 08:47 +1100
  Re: Function __defaults__ Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2011-04-24 17:53 -0400
  Re: Function __defaults__ Ken Seehart <ken@seehart.com> - 2011-04-24 14:54 -0700
  Re: Function __defaults__ "Colin J. Williams" <cjw@ncf.ca> - 2011-04-25 07:59 -0400
  Re: Function __defaults__ Ken Seehart <ken@seehart.com> - 2011-04-25 05:30 -0700
  Re: Function __defaults__ "Colin J. Williams" <cjw@ncf.ca> - 2011-04-25 10:24 -0400

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