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Two python issues

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From	Raymond Boute <raymond.boute@pandora.be>
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Subject	Two python issues
Date	Tue, 5 Nov 2024 15:48:07 +0100
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L.S.,

Python seem to suffer from a few poor design decisions regarding strings 
and lists that affect the elegance of the language.

(a) An error-prone "feature" is returning -1 if a substring is not found 
by "find", since -1 currently refers to the last item. An example:

 >>> s = 'qwertyuiop'
 >>> s[s.find('r')]
'r'
 >>> s[s.find('p')]
'p'
 >>> s[s.find('a')]
'p'
 >>>

If "find" is unsuccessful, an error message is the only clean option.
Moreover, using index -1 for the last item is a bad choice: it should be 
len(s) - 1 (no laziness!).
Negative indices should be reserved for elements preceding the element 
with index 0 (currently not implemented, but a must for orthogonal 
design supporting general sequences).

(b) When using assignment for slices, only lists with the same length as 
the slice should be acceptable, otherwise an error should be given.  
Anything that re-indexes items not covered by the slice is against the 
essential idea of assignment. For changes that imply re-indexing (e.g., 
inserting a list longer than the slice), Python offers cleaner solutions.

Comments are welcome.

With best regards,

Raymond

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Two python issues Raymond Boute <raymond.boute@pandora.be> - 2024-11-05 15:48 +0100
  Re: Two python issues Piergiorgio Sartor <piergiorgio.sartor.this.should.not.be.used@nexgo.REMOVETHIS.de> - 2024-11-05 22:27 +0100
    Re: Two python issues (Posting On Python-List Prohibited) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-05 21:56 +0000

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