Re: Password validation security issue

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On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 7:01 AM, Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> wrote:
> We recently got a frothing email from a user, which basically said, "You
> farking idiots, you emailed me my password in plain text!"  It turns
> out, his user name was the same as his password and what we had sent him
> (in response to an account recovery query) was his username.

Sadly, there *are* systems that will actually email passwords in plain
text, and don't tell you so beforehand (Mailman at least tells you
that the password isn't meant for security). I met one recently. Did
not appreciate that. Fortunately when I changed my password, the new
password wasn't emailed back to me.

ChrisA

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Password validation security issue Renato <rvernucio@gmail.com> - 2014-03-01 09:49 -0800
  Re: Password validation security issue Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-02 05:11 +1100
  Re: Password validation security issue Christian Heimes <christian@python.org> - 2014-03-01 19:31 +0100
  Re: Password validation security issue Tim Chase <python.list@tim.thechases.com> - 2014-03-01 12:38 -0600
  Re: Password validation security issue Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-02 05:43 +1100
  Re: Password validation security issue Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-02 05:45 +1100
  Re: Password validation security issue Christian Heimes <christian@python.org> - 2014-03-01 20:54 +0100
    Re: Password validation security issue Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2014-03-01 15:25 -0500
      Re: Password validation security issue Christian Heimes <christian@python.org> - 2014-03-01 23:07 +0100
      Re: Password validation security issue Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-02 09:13 +1100
  Re: Password validation security issue Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-02 07:11 +1100
  Re: Password validation security issue Christian Heimes <christian@python.org> - 2014-03-02 20:25 +0100
    Re: Password validation security issue Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2014-03-02 15:01 -0500
      Re: Password validation security issue Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-03 07:32 +1100
      Re: Password validation security issue Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-03-03 01:16 +0000
        Re: Password validation security issue Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2014-03-02 18:52 -0700
          Re: Password validation security issue Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2014-03-03 04:38 +0000
            Re: Password validation security issue Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-03 16:44 +1100
            Re: Password validation security issue Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2014-03-02 23:50 -0700
        Re: Password validation security issue Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-03 13:56 +1100
          Re: Password validation security issue Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2014-03-03 08:41 -0500
            Re: Password validation security issue Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-04 00:55 +1100
              Re: Password validation security issue Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-03-03 16:46 +0000
                Re: Password validation security issue Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-04 05:46 +1100
            Re: Password validation security issue MRAB <python@mrabarnett.plus.com> - 2014-03-03 16:29 +0000
            Re: Password validation security issue Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-03-03 17:41 +0000
  Re: Password validation security issue Renato <rvernucio@gmail.com> - 2014-03-02 15:10 -0800
    Re: Password validation security issue Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2014-03-02 18:49 -0700
    Re: Password validation security issue Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-03-03 02:30 +0000

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