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Re: Defamation

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From Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu>
Subject Re: Defamation
Date Wed, 21 Oct 2015 04:01:34 -0400
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On 10/21/2015 2:53 AM, Laura Creighton wrote:
> In a message of Wed, 21 Oct 2015 10:30:35 +1100, "Steven D'Aprano" writes:
>> On Wed, 21 Oct 2015 01:44 am, Laura Creighton wrote:
>>> No, we are removing them because we want to.
>>
>> Who are "we"? You're not talking about *you and me*.
>
> Anybody who was involved in deciding whether or not to remove them.
> You, me, Ralf, Skip, Tim Golden, Terry, anybody else who is interested.
>
> <snip>
>
>> If that's the case, that would be fantastic, but are you *sure* it works
>> like that? Skip Montanaro made it clear that removing posts from the
>> archives regenerates URLs for the whole month:
>>
>> http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/python/python/1176035
>
> Yes. And if you read the rest of the thread you will see how it was proposed
> to avoid that problem, with a placeholder, and thereafter Skip wrote a
> script that implemented exactly that.

The moderators intend and try to delete such posts as those under 
discussion before they reach the list, by both automatic and manual 
filtering.  They are doing pretty well, but some posters have actively 
evaded this process (and give us training examples to improve the 
process).  I think that posts that would have unquestionably been 
deleted before being distributed are fair game to be replaced at least 
in our archive after the fact.  I appreciate the people who have done 
this cleanup work.

-- 
Terry Jan Reedy

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Re: Defamation Laura Creighton <lac@openend.se> - 2015-10-19 18:28 +0200
  Re: Defamation Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2015-10-21 00:09 +1100
    Re: Defamation Ralf Hildebrandt <Ralf.Hildebrandt@charite.de> - 2015-10-20 15:46 +0200
    Re: Defamation Laura Creighton <lac@openend.se> - 2015-10-20 16:44 +0200
      Re: Defamation Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2015-10-21 10:30 +1100
        Re: Defamation Laura Creighton <lac@openend.se> - 2015-10-21 08:53 +0200
        Re: Defamation Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2015-10-21 04:01 -0400
        Re: Defamation Ralf Hildebrandt <Ralf.Hildebrandt@charite.de> - 2015-10-21 11:52 +0200
    Re: Defamation "John O'Hagan" <mail@johnohagan.com> - 2015-10-22 11:45 +1100
      Re: Defamation Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2015-10-23 02:17 +1100
    Re: Defamation Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2015-10-22 19:05 +1100
    Re: Defamation "John O'Hagan" <mail@johnohagan.com> - 2015-10-22 21:10 +1100
    Re: Defamation Oscar Benjamin <oscar.j.benjamin@gmail.com> - 2015-10-22 11:33 +0100
    Re: Defamation Laura Creighton <lac@openend.se> - 2015-10-22 13:19 +0200
    Re: Defamation Laura Creighton <lac@openend.se> - 2015-10-22 13:36 +0200
    Re: Defamation Oscar Benjamin <oscar.j.benjamin@gmail.com> - 2015-10-22 12:59 +0100
    Re: Defamation "John O'Hagan" <mail@johnohagan.com> - 2015-10-23 10:03 +1100
    Re: Defamation John O'Hagan <research@johnohagan.com> - 2015-10-23 09:59 +1100

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