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Re: pythonOCC examples doesn't work?

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Date 2012-09-14 18:15 +1000
Subject Re: pythonOCC examples doesn't work?
From Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com>
Newsgroups comp.lang.python
Message-ID <mailman.687.1347610557.27098.python-list@python.org> (permalink)

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On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 5:49 PM, Dwight Hutto <dwightdhutto@gmail.com> wrote:
>> honest. How do you feel? Interesting...
>>
> Um, I guess like an inconsiderate bandwidth hog, but from now on I'll
> trim more text.

What you may have missed was that that was a quote from Princess
Bride. Don't take it personally :)

> First it was too little, and now it's too much.
>
> I just tend to cut out some or all depending on the scope of the conversation.
>
> If I just hit reply all, and send it out, it's not intentionally to
> use all of the text, and utilize the extra space, it's just a
> response.

It's all a question of courtesy, and there's no hard-and-fast rules.
But as a simple rule of thumb, assume that your post is going to be
read completely without any surrounding context; will it be
comprehensible?

> If the conversation is kind of just a few people, then I trim pretty
> much everything, which apparently set a guy name mark off, who I was
> polite to, but I'm not going to get slammed for a few simple posting
> mistakes, and more than likely a few of his aliases, or the group he
> tends to cheer up with.

There's actually no such thing as a conversation of just a few people,
on a big list like this. Sure, there may be only a few contributors,
but there are thousands - maybe millions - of readers.

You're not being slammed, though. What you're seeing is a community
doing its best to maintain itself. If we all sit silently, wishing our
hardest that everyone would quote nicely, cite nicely, post without
trolling, and be helpful, will it happen? (Those familiar with the
Bible may note a similarity with some comments in the epistle of
James.) There are two ways to ensure that the community upholds its
standards: Kicking out everyone who doesn't measure up, or explaining
to people and inviting them to participate. The first is a great way
to have a tiny community with no growth. The second... is what you're
seeing. :)

Of course, there's a third option, which is to simply ignore
everything and try to get on with life. That basically amounts to
kicking _yourself_ out of the community, because you'll quickly give
up on a forum in which everyone posts sloppily. And I'm sure you don't
want all the experts to do that, because you're then left with a
"blind leading the blind" mailing list... not particularly conducive
to good code!

> It's just a mailing list, lighten up because mistakes in posting will
> happen, even by accident.

Accidents are understandable, but getting defensive doesn't help :)
Generally, people don't speak up until there've been several similar
instances.

ChrisA

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pythonOCC examples doesn't work? Jayden <jayden.shui@gmail.com> - 2012-09-11 21:02 -0700
  Re: pythonOCC examples doesn't work? Marco Nawijn <nawijn@gmail.com> - 2012-09-11 21:42 -0700
  Re: pythonOCC examples doesn't work? Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-09-12 07:41 +0100
  Re: pythonOCC examples doesn't work? Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-09-12 08:37 +0100
  Re: pythonOCC examples doesn't work? Dwight Hutto <dwightdhutto@gmail.com> - 2012-09-12 04:12 -0400
  Re: pythonOCC examples doesn't work? jelle <jelleferinga@gmail.com> - 2012-09-12 08:12 -0700
    Re: pythonOCC examples doesn't work? Jayden <jayden.shui@gmail.com> - 2012-09-12 10:03 -0700
  Re: pythonOCC examples doesn't work? Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2012-09-12 16:58 -0400
  RE: pythonOCC examples doesn't work? "Prasad, Ramit" <ramit.prasad@jpmorgan.com> - 2012-09-13 23:26 +0000
  Re: pythonOCC examples doesn't work? Dwight Hutto <dwightdhutto@gmail.com> - 2012-09-13 21:11 -0400
  Re: pythonOCC examples doesn't work? Dwight Hutto <dwightdhutto@gmail.com> - 2012-09-13 21:14 -0400
  Re: pythonOCC examples doesn't work? Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2012-09-13 22:55 -0400
  Re: pythonOCC examples doesn't work? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-09-14 17:30 +1000
  Re: pythonOCC examples doesn't work? Dwight Hutto <dwightdhutto@gmail.com> - 2012-09-14 03:49 -0400
  Re: pythonOCC examples doesn't work? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-09-14 18:15 +1000
  RE: pythonOCC examples doesn't work? "Prasad, Ramit" <ramit.prasad@jpmorgan.com> - 2012-09-14 22:51 +0000
  Re: pythonOCC examples doesn't work? Dwight Hutto <dwightdhutto@gmail.com> - 2012-09-14 23:47 -0400
  Re: pythonOCC examples doesn't work? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-09-15 13:53 +1000
  Re: pythonOCC examples doesn't work? Dwight Hutto <dwightdhutto@gmail.com> - 2012-09-15 00:40 -0400
  Re: pythonOCC examples doesn't work? MRAB <python@mrabarnett.plus.com> - 2012-09-15 18:26 +0100
  Re: pythonOCC examples doesn't work? Dwight Hutto <dwightdhutto@gmail.com> - 2012-09-17 02:44 -0400
  BDFL Rossenbom, was Re: pythonOCC examples doesn't work? Peter Otten <__peter__@web.de> - 2012-09-17 09:24 +0200

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