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| Date | Thu, 13 Feb 2014 10:31:12 -0800 |
| From | Ethan Furman <ethan@stoneleaf.us> |
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On 02/13/2014 09:57 AM, Roy Smith wrote: > In article <mailman.6850.1392313443.18130.python-list@python.org>, > Ethan Furman <ethan@stoneleaf.us> wrote: > >> Say you have a class that represents serial ports or your computer. You >> should get the same object every time you ask >> for SerialPort(2). > > Why? Certainly, you should get objects which refer to the same physical > port. So: > > port_a = SerialPort(2) > port_b = SerialPort(2) > > port_a.enable() > assert port_b.is_shutdown() == False > > port_a.shutdown() > assert port_b.is_shutdown() == True > > But, why do they have to be the same object? Why should I care if > > port_a is port_b > > is False, as long as all operations I perform on either are reflected in > correct state changes on the other one? You mean use the Borg pattern instead of the Singleton pattern? As far as I can tell they are two shades of the same thing. Are there any drastic differences between the two? Besides one having many instances that share one __dict__ and the other just having one instance and one __dict__? -- ~Ethan~
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singleton ... again Asaf Las <roegltd@gmail.com> - 2014-02-11 20:34 -0800
Re: singleton ... again Asaf Las <roegltd@gmail.com> - 2014-02-11 21:15 -0800
Re:singleton ... again Dave Angel <davea@davea.name> - 2014-02-12 00:48 -0500
Re: singleton ... again Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2014-02-12 00:55 -0500
Re: singleton ... again Gregory Ewing <greg.ewing@canterbury.ac.nz> - 2014-02-12 23:04 +1300
Re: singleton ... again Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2014-02-12 21:09 +1100
Re: singleton ... again Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2014-02-12 08:40 -0500
Re: singleton ... again Piet van Oostrum <piet@vanoostrum.org> - 2014-02-13 10:00 +0100
Re: singleton ... again Ned Batchelder <ned@nedbatchelder.com> - 2014-02-13 06:50 -0500
Re: singleton ... again Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-02-13 22:57 +1100
Re: singleton ... again Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2014-02-13 10:24 -0500
Re: singleton ... again Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-02-14 07:03 +1100
Re: singleton ... again Robert Kern <robert.kern@gmail.com> - 2014-02-13 21:13 +0000
Re: singleton ... again Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-02-14 08:27 +1100
Re: singleton ... again Ethan Furman <ethan@stoneleaf.us> - 2014-02-13 08:57 -0800
Re: singleton ... again Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2014-02-13 12:57 -0500
Re: singleton ... again Ethan Furman <ethan@stoneleaf.us> - 2014-02-13 10:31 -0800
Re: singleton ... again Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2014-02-13 14:03 -0500
Re: singleton ... again Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-02-14 06:50 +1100
Re: singleton ... again Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2014-02-13 22:28 +0000
Re: singleton ... again Gregory Ewing <greg.ewing@canterbury.ac.nz> - 2014-02-14 18:21 +1300
Re: singleton ... again Tim Delaney <timothy.c.delaney@gmail.com> - 2014-02-14 06:16 +1100
Re: singleton ... again Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2014-02-13 02:58 +0000
Re: singleton ... again Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2014-02-13 14:07 +1100
Re: singleton ... again Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2014-02-13 04:24 +0000
Re: singleton ... again Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-02-13 15:33 +1100
Re: singleton ... again Gregory Ewing <greg.ewing@canterbury.ac.nz> - 2014-02-14 18:15 +1300
Re: singleton ... again Gregory Ewing <greg.ewing@canterbury.ac.nz> - 2014-02-14 18:06 +1300
Re: singleton ... again Asaf Las <roegltd@gmail.com> - 2014-02-12 09:50 -0800
Re: singleton ... again Asaf Las <roegltd@gmail.com> - 2014-02-12 09:56 -0800
Re: singleton ... again Asaf Las <roegltd@gmail.com> - 2014-02-12 09:58 -0800
Re: singleton ... again Gregory Ewing <greg.ewing@canterbury.ac.nz> - 2014-02-13 10:57 +1300
Re: singleton ... again Asaf Las <roegltd@gmail.com> - 2014-02-12 17:38 -0800
Re: singleton ... again Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-02-12 18:57 +0000
Re: singleton ... again Asaf Las <roegltd@gmail.com> - 2014-02-12 17:02 -0800
Re: singleton ... again Ned Batchelder <ned@nedbatchelder.com> - 2014-02-12 16:34 -0500
Re: singleton ... again Asaf Las <roegltd@gmail.com> - 2014-02-12 17:34 -0800
Re: singleton ... again Tim Delaney <timothy.c.delaney@gmail.com> - 2014-02-13 10:08 +1100
Re: singleton ... again Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2014-02-12 20:57 -0500
Re: singleton ... again Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> - 2014-02-12 15:05 -0700
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