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Re: What is the recommended python module for SQL database access?

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I just checked in the Python sources and apparently you're right about
SQLite3. The Python distribution includes pysqlite which seems to be a
self-contained SQLite engine. No external dependencies. Sorry for the
confusion.


2014-02-09 9:00 GMT-02:00 Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com>:

> On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 9:20 PM, Marcel Rodrigues <marcelgmr@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > As Chris said, if your needs are simple, use SQLite back-end. It's
> probably
> > already installed on your computer and Python has a nice interface to it
> in
> > its standard library.
>
> Already installed? I thought the point of SQLite3 being in the Python
> stdlib was that Python actually included the entire engine (that's why
> there's no, for instance, PostgreSQL client in the stdlib - because
> there's no server; I disagree with the reasoning, but it is consistent
> and valid), so you don't need _anything_ externally installed.
>
> In any case, SQLite is ideal for really simple databasing. Back in the
> 1990s, I had DB2, DB2, and DB2, for all my database work. I wanted a
> way to query a dictionary of English words using SQL, so I created a
> DB2 database and threw ~60K rows into a table. Massive overkill for a
> one-column table. These days, I could use SQLite (or more likely, just
> use grep on /usr/share/dict/words - grep does everything that I wanted
> SQL for, if you include piping from one grep into another), cutting
> the overhead down enormously.
>
> The biggest downside of SQLite3 is concurrency. I haven't dug into the
> exact details of the pager system and such, but it seems to be fairly
> coarse in its locking. Also, stuff gets a bit complicated when you do
> a single transaction involving multiple files. So if you have lots of
> processes writing to the same set of SQLite tables, you'll see pretty
> poor performance. PostgreSQL handles that situation far better, but
> has a lot more overhead, so it's a poor choice for a single simple
> application. MySQL's locking/concurrency system is specifically
> optimized for a model that's common for web applications: a huge
> number of readers and a tiny number of writers (sometimes referred to
> as Data Warehousing, because you basically stuff a warehouse full of
> data and then everyone comes looking for it). For the write-heavy
> model (sometimes called OLTP or On-Line Transaction Processing),
> PostgreSQL will hugely outperform MySQL, thanks to its MVCC model.
>
> Broad recommendation: Single application, tiny workload, concurrency
> not an issue, simplicity desired? Go SQLite. Big complex job, need
> performance, lots of things reading and writing at once, want
> networked access? Go PGSQL. And don't go MySQL if PG is an option.
>
> And definitely don't go for a non-free option (MS-SQL, DB2, etc)
> unless you've looked into it really closely and you are absolutely
> thoroughly *sure* that you need that system (which probably means you
> need your app to integrate with someone else's, and that other app
> demands one particular database).
>
> ChrisA
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What is the recommended python module for SQL database access? Sam <lightaiyee@gmail.com> - 2014-02-08 00:55 -0800
  Re: What is the recommended python module for SQL database access? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-02-08 20:04 +1100
  Re: What is the recommended python module for SQL database access? Marcel Rodrigues <marcelgmr@gmail.com> - 2014-02-09 08:20 -0200
  Re: What is the recommended python module for SQL database access? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-02-09 22:00 +1100
    Re: What is the recommended python module for SQL database access? Asaf Las <roegltd@gmail.com> - 2014-02-09 04:47 -0800
      Re: What is the recommended python module for SQL database access? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-02-10 00:14 +1100
        Re: What is the recommended python module for SQL database access? Asaf Las <roegltd@gmail.com> - 2014-02-09 05:27 -0800
          Re: What is the recommended python module for SQL database access? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-02-10 00:36 +1100
    Re: What is the recommended python module for SQL database access? Walter Hurry <walterhurry@gmail.com> - 2014-02-11 02:57 +0000
      Re: What is the recommended python module for SQL database access? Asaf Las <roegltd@gmail.com> - 2014-02-10 19:02 -0800
        Re: What is the recommended python module for SQL database access? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-02-11 14:31 +1100
          Re: What is the recommended python module for SQL database access? Asaf Las <roegltd@gmail.com> - 2014-02-10 19:45 -0800
      Re: What is the recommended python module for SQL database access? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-02-11 14:18 +1100
  Re: What is the recommended python module for SQL database access? Marcel Rodrigues <marcelgmr@gmail.com> - 2014-02-09 10:04 -0200
  Re: What is the recommended python module for SQL database access? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-02-09 23:13 +1100
  Re: What is the recommended python module for SQL database access? Tim Chase <python.list@tim.thechases.com> - 2014-02-09 08:31 -0600
  Re: What is the recommended python module for SQL database access? Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2014-02-09 10:40 -0500
  Re: What is the recommended python module for SQL database access? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-02-10 09:03 +1100
  Re: What is the recommended python module for SQL database access? Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2014-02-09 19:27 -0500

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