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Re: __init__ is the initialiser

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Date Fri, 31 Jan 2014 11:43:32 -0800
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On 01/31/2014 11:33 AM, Mark Lawrence wrote:
>  From http://docs.python.org/3/reference/datamodel.html#object.__init__ which states:-
>
> "
> Called when the instance is created. The arguments are those passed to the class constructor expression. If a base class
> has an __init__() method, the derived class’s __init__() method, if any, must explicitly call it to ensure proper
> initialization of the base class part of the instance; for example: BaseClass.__init__(self, [args...]). As a special
> constraint on constructors, no value may be returned; doing so will cause a TypeError to be raised at runtime.
> "
>
> Should the wording of the above be changed to clearly reflect that we have an initialiser here and that __new__ is the
> constructor?

I would say yes.  Go ahead and create an issue if one doesn't already exist.  Thanks.

--
~Ethan~

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Re: __init__ is the initialiser Ethan Furman <ethan@stoneleaf.us> - 2014-01-31 11:43 -0800

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