Re: 1 > 0 == True -> False

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Date	2014-01-31 11:01 +1100
Subject	Re: 1 > 0 == True -> False
From	Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	comp.lang.python
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On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 10:36 AM, Joshua Landau <joshua@landau.ws> wrote:
> On 30 January 2014 20:38, Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Why is tuple unpacking limited to the last argument? Is it just for
>> the parallel with the function definition, where anything following it
>> is keyword-only?
>
> You're not the first person to ask that:
> http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0448/
>
> If you're able and willing to implement it, I believe the support is
> there. The primary reason I know of for its non-inclusion was that it
> was first proposed (with code) during a feature freeze.

Ah, okay. Glad it's not a fundamentally hard concept. I don't know
that I want to dig into actually implementing that, just now, but I've
added myself as nosy on bug 2292 (which is where the patch is being
discussed, and is referenced in the PEP). I don't have a major
use-case for it in Python, though I've used the equivalent Pike
feature all over the place (it's done as @args where args is an array,
and it's equivalent to listing the args - pretty much the same as
*args in Python) - it's handy, even though it's almost never really
crucial.

It's perhaps telling that the only time I can recall running into this
with Python is in making some deliberately bad code :D

ChrisA

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1 > 0 == True -> False Thibault Langlois <thibault.langlois@gmail.com> - 2014-01-30 03:36 -0800
  Re: 1 > 0 == True -> False Thomas Mlynarczyk <thomas@mlynarczyk-webdesign.de> - 2014-01-30 12:44 +0100
  Re: 1 > 0 == True -> False Jussi Piitulainen <jpiitula@ling.helsinki.fi> - 2014-01-30 13:46 +0200
    Re: 1 > 0 == True -> False Peter Otten <__peter__@web.de> - 2014-01-30 13:04 +0100
      Re: 1 > 0 == True -> False Jussi Piitulainen <jpiitula@ling.helsinki.fi> - 2014-01-30 14:08 +0200
  Re:1 > 0 == True -> False Dave Angel <davea@davea.name> - 2014-01-30 07:49 -0500
    Re: 1 > 0 == True -> False Thibault Langlois <thibault.langlois@gmail.com> - 2014-01-30 05:40 -0800
      Re: 1 > 0 == True -> False Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-01-31 00:55 +1100
      Re: 1 > 0 == True -> False Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2014-01-30 09:08 -0500
        Re: 1 > 0 == True -> False Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-01-31 01:18 +1100
          Re: 1 > 0 == True -> False Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2014-01-30 09:49 -0500
            Re: 1 > 0 == True -> False Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-01-31 02:02 +1100
        Re: 1 > 0 == True -> False Devin Jeanpierre <jeanpierreda@gmail.com> - 2014-01-30 06:41 -0800
        Re: 1 > 0 == True -> False Thibault Langlois <thibault.langlois@gmail.com> - 2014-01-30 06:46 -0800
          Re: 1 > 0 == True -> False Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-01-30 17:42 +0000
        Re: 1 > 0 == True -> False Jussi Piitulainen <jpiitula@ling.helsinki.fi> - 2014-01-30 16:56 +0200
          Re: 1 > 0 == True -> False Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2014-01-30 10:46 -0800
            Re: 1 > 0 == True -> False Jussi Piitulainen <jpiitula@ling.helsinki.fi> - 2014-01-30 22:14 +0200
              Re: 1 > 0 == True -> False Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-01-31 07:25 +1100
        Re: 1 > 0 == True -> False Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-01-30 15:09 +0000
          Re: 1 > 0 == True -> False Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-01-30 07:34 -0800
          Re: 1 > 0 == True -> False Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2014-01-30 10:53 -0800
            Re: 1 > 0 == True -> False Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-01-30 19:33 -0800
          Re: 1 > 0 == True -> False Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2014-01-30 10:56 -0800
            Re: 1 > 0 == True -> False Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-01-31 06:03 +1100
              Re: 1 > 0 == True -> False Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2014-01-30 14:09 -0800
                Re: 1 > 0 == True -> False Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-01-31 09:29 +1100
            Re: 1 > 0 == True -> False Ethan Furman <ethan@stoneleaf.us> - 2014-01-30 11:22 -0800
            Re: 1 > 0 == True -> False Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-01-31 06:48 +1100
    Re: 1 > 0 == True -> False Rotwang <sg552@hotmail.co.uk> - 2014-01-30 19:25 +0000
      Re: 1 > 0 == True -> False Dave Angel <davea@davea.name> - 2014-01-30 15:08 -0500
      Re: 1 > 0 == True -> False Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-01-31 07:15 +1100
      Re: 1 > 0 == True -> False Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2014-01-30 13:28 -0700
      Re: 1 > 0 == True -> False Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-01-31 07:38 +1100
      Re: 1 > 0 == True -> False Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2014-01-30 14:17 -0700
      Re: 1 > 0 == True -> False Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-01-31 08:31 +1100
      Re: 1 > 0 == True -> False Joshua Landau <joshua@landau.ws> - 2014-01-30 23:36 +0000
        Re: 1 > 0 == True -> False Rotwang <sg552@hotmail.co.uk> - 2014-01-31 00:10 +0000
          Removal of iterable unpacking in function calls (was: 1 > 0 == True -> False) Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2014-01-31 11:21 +1100
            Re: Removal of iterable unpacking in function calls Rotwang <sg552@hotmail.co.uk> - 2014-01-31 00:32 +0000
          Re: 1 > 0 == True -> False Joshua Landau <joshua@landau.ws> - 2014-01-31 00:32 +0000
      Re: 1 > 0 == True -> False Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-01-31 11:01 +1100

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