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Re: UTC "timezone" causing brain explosions

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Skip Montanaro <skip@pobox.com> writes:

> Following up on my earlier note about UTC v. GMT, I am having some
> trouble grokking attempts to convert a datetime into UTC.

For what it's worth, you're not alone. Time zones are a hairy beast to
manage, made all the more difficult because national politicians
continually fiddle with them which means they can't just be a built-in
part of the Python standard library.

> Consider these three values:
>
> >>> import pytz
> >>> UTC = pytz.timezone("UTC")
> >>> UTC
> <UTC>
> >>> LOCAL_TZ = pytz.timezone("America/Chicago")
> >>> LOCAL_TZ
> <DstTzInfo 'America/Chicago' CST-1 day, 18:00:00 STD>
> >>> now = datetime.datetime.now()
> >>> now
> datetime.datetime(2014, 1, 29, 15, 39, 35, 263666)
>
> All well and good, right?

Not really :-) You avoid the pain if you never create naive datetime
values in the first place.

Instead, specify the timezone for the value you're creating::

    >>> now = datetime.datetime.now(tz=LOCAL_TZ)
    >>> now
    datetime.datetime(2014, 1, 29, 16, 35, 7, 900526, tzinfo=<DstTzInfo 'America/Chicago' CST-1 day, 18:00:00 STD>)

That way the value will respond correctly to requests to convert it to
whatever timezone you specify::

    >>> MELBOURNE = pytz.timezone("Australia/Melbourne")
    >>> now.astimezone(MELBOURNE)
    datetime.datetime(2014, 1, 30, 9, 35, 7, 900526, tzinfo=<DstTzInfo 'Australia/Melbourne' EST+11:00:00 DST>)
    >>> now.astimezone(UTC)
    datetime.datetime(2014, 1, 29, 22, 35, 7, 900526, tzinfo=<UTC>)
    >>> now.astimezone(LOCAL_TZ)
    datetime.datetime(2014, 1, 29, 16, 35, 7, 900526, tzinfo=<DstTzInfo 'America/Chicago' CST-1 day, 18:00:00 STD>)

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Ben Finney

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Re: UTC "timezone" causing brain explosions Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2014-01-30 09:44 +1100

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