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Re: buggy python interpretter or am I missing something here?

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On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 6:44 PM, me <noone@all.net> wrote:
> On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 23:17:29 -0800, Ethan Furman wrote:
>
>> On 01/26/2014 10:46 PM, me wrote:
>>>
>>> [...]  I'm satisfied that the except: syntax yields undefined behavior,
>>> and in my mind it shouldn't be
>>>  syntactically allowed then.
>>
>> Two points:
>>
>>    1) Python is not C++
>>
>>    2) You asked for help; you received it.  Coming back
>>       with an attitude of "Python must be broken, I'll work around it"
>>       is going to quickly lose you the support of those willing to help
>>       again.
>
>
> Whatever...lighten up dude!

When you use a language, you should be working with it, not fighting
against it. It doesn't do to complain that REXX ought to have IEEE
floating-point semantics, or that 8086 assembly language really would
benefit from a native hashtable type. Python works a certain way, and
part of that is its use of exceptions - which are integral to the
language, rather than being (as in C++) somewhat tacked-on. Assuming
that anything that isn't the way you expect it is inherently broken,
and saying so on a mailing list, is a good way to alienate those who
are offering you help for no reimbursement... and "lighten up dude"
doesn't help.

ChrisA

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buggy python interpretter or am I missing something here? me <noone@all.net> - 2014-01-27 03:42 +0000
  buggy python interpretter or am I missing something here? - "TCdaemon.py"  yEnc me <noone@all.net> - 2014-01-27 03:42 +0000
  Re: buggy python interpretter or am I missing something here? Gary Herron <gary.herron@islandtraining.com> - 2014-01-26 21:04 -0800
    Re: buggy python interpretter or am I missing something here? me <noone@all.net> - 2014-01-27 06:17 +0000
      Re: buggy python interpretter or am I missing something here? Gary Herron <gary.herron@islandtraining.com> - 2014-01-26 23:03 -0800
        Re: buggy python interpretter or am I missing something here? me <noone@all.net> - 2014-01-27 07:20 +0000
  Re:buggy python interpretter or am I missing something here? Dave Angel <davea@davea.name> - 2014-01-27 00:36 -0500
    Re:buggy python interpretter or am I missing something here? me <noone@all.net> - 2014-01-27 06:02 +0000
      Re: buggy python interpretter or am I missing something here? Zachary Ware <zachary.ware+pylist@gmail.com> - 2014-01-27 00:47 -0600
        Re: buggy python interpretter or am I missing something here? me <noone@all.net> - 2014-01-27 07:17 +0000
          Re: buggy python interpretter or am I missing something here? Alister <alister.ware@ntlworld.com> - 2014-01-27 12:19 +0000
          Re: buggy python interpretter or am I missing something here? Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-01-27 13:48 +0000
          Re: buggy python interpretter or am I missing something here? Zachary Ware <zachary.ware+pylist@gmail.com> - 2014-01-27 10:23 -0600
            Re: buggy python interpretter or am I missing something here? Dan Sommers <dan@tombstonezero.net> - 2014-01-27 16:38 +0000
          Re: buggy python interpretter or am I missing something here? Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-01-27 16:45 +0000
  Re: buggy python interpretter or am I missing something here? Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2014-01-27 01:21 -0500
    Re: buggy python interpretter or am I missing something here? me <noone@all.net> - 2014-01-27 06:42 +0000
      Re: buggy python interpretter or am I missing something here? Ethan Furman <ethan@stoneleaf.us> - 2014-01-26 23:08 -0800
  Re: buggy python interpretter or am I missing something here? me <noone@all.net> - 2014-01-27 06:46 +0000
    Re: buggy python interpretter or am I missing something here? Zachary Ware <zachary.ware+pylist@gmail.com> - 2014-01-27 00:55 -0600
    Re: buggy python interpretter or am I missing something here? Gary Herron <gary.herron@islandtraining.com> - 2014-01-26 23:12 -0800
      Re: buggy python interpretter or am I missing something here? me <noone@all.net> - 2014-01-27 07:30 +0000
        Re: buggy python interpretter or am I missing something here? Peter Otten <__peter__@web.de> - 2014-01-27 09:45 +0100
    Re: buggy python interpretter or am I missing something here? Ethan Furman <ethan@stoneleaf.us> - 2014-01-26 23:17 -0800
      Re: buggy python interpretter or am I missing something here? me <noone@all.net> - 2014-01-27 07:44 +0000
        Re: buggy python interpretter or am I missing something here? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-01-27 20:01 +1100
          Re: buggy python interpretter or am I missing something here? me <noone@all.net> - 2014-01-27 09:32 +0000
            Re: buggy python interpretter or am I missing something here? Neil Cerutti <neilc@norwich.edu> - 2014-01-27 12:56 +0000
            Re: buggy python interpretter or am I missing something here? Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-01-27 13:56 +0000
            Re: buggy python interpretter or am I missing something here? Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2014-01-27 07:33 -0800
              Re: buggy python interpretter or am I missing something here? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-01-28 02:53 +1100
                Re: buggy python interpretter or am I missing something here? Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2014-01-27 12:22 -0800
                Re: buggy python interpretter or am I missing something here? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-01-28 07:29 +1100
                Re: buggy python interpretter or am I missing something here? Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-01-27 22:25 +0000
                Re: buggy python interpretter or am I missing something here? Gregory Ewing <greg.ewing@canterbury.ac.nz> - 2014-01-30 18:13 +1300
                Re: buggy python interpretter or am I missing something here? Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2014-01-30 04:44 -0500
                Re: buggy python interpretter or am I missing something here? Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-01-31 04:06 +0000
                Re: buggy python interpretter or am I missing something here? Kushal Kumaran <kushal.kumaran@gmail.com> - 2014-01-31 10:37 +0530
                Re: buggy python interpretter or am I missing something here? Gregory Ewing <greg.ewing@canterbury.ac.nz> - 2014-01-31 19:59 +1300
              Re: buggy python interpretter or am I missing something here? Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-01-27 16:22 +0000
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