Groups | Search | Server Info | Keyboard shortcuts | Login | Register [http] [https] [nntp] [nntps]
Groups > comp.lang.python > #64428
| Path | csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!dedibox.gegeweb.org!gegeweb.eu!nntpfeed.proxad.net!proxad.net!feeder1-2.proxad.net!usenet-fr.net!nerim.net!novso.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed1a.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail |
|---|---|
| Return-Path | <python-python-list@m.gmane.org> |
| X-Original-To | python-list@python.org |
| Delivered-To | python-list@mail.python.org |
| X-Spam-Status | OK 0.010 |
| X-Spam-Evidence | '*H*': 0.98; '*S*': 0.00; 'classes,': 0.05; 'obsolete': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'seemed': 0.09; 'starter': 0.09; 'runs': 0.10; 'python': 0.11; 'jan': 0.12; 'language,': 0.12; 'easily,': 0.16; 'new-style': 0.16; 'non- english': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'reedy': 0.16; 'subclass': 0.16; 'subject:Early': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'subject:project': 0.19; 'install': 0.23; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.23; 'certainly': 0.24; 'instead.': 0.24; 'fine': 0.24; "i've": 0.25; 'source': 0.25; 'class.': 0.26; 'define': 0.26; 'second': 0.26; 'header:X -Complaints-To:1': 0.27; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'fixed': 0.29; 'am,': 0.29; 'tim': 0.29; 'especially': 0.30; 'gives': 0.31; 'another.': 0.31; 'chase': 0.31; 'class': 0.32; 'guess': 0.33; 'mac': 0.33; 'older': 0.33; "can't": 0.35; 'classes': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; 'version': 0.36; 'really': 0.36; 'programming,': 0.36; 'words,': 0.36; 'subject:?': 0.36; 'should': 0.36; 'too': 0.37; 'starting': 0.37; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'rather': 0.38; 'that,': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'read': 0.60; 'greatest': 0.60; 'received:173': 0.61; 'email addr:gmail.com': 0.63; 'such': 0.63; 'great': 0.65; 'income': 0.65; 'needs,': 0.65; 'media': 0.66; 'hours': 0.66; 'latest': 0.67; "'object'": 0.84; '10.4': 0.84; '2.5.': 0.84; 'learn.': 0.84; 'received:fios.verizon.net': 0.84; 'afford': 0.91; 'retired': 0.93 |
| X-Injected-Via-Gmane | http://gmane.org/ |
| To | python-list@python.org |
| From | Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> |
| Subject | Re: Early retirement project? |
| Date | Tue, 21 Jan 2014 12:34:44 -0500 |
| References | <a354ccd7-8f1a-411d-b5ae-0f6fd8343f3b@googlegroups.com> <20140121053801.60f8cf11@bigbox.christie.dr> |
| Mime-Version | 1.0 |
| Content-Type | text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed |
| Content-Transfer-Encoding | 7bit |
| X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host | pool-173-75-254-207.phlapa.fios.verizon.net |
| User-Agent | Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.2.0 |
| In-Reply-To | <20140121053801.60f8cf11@bigbox.christie.dr> |
| X-BeenThere | python-list@python.org |
| X-Mailman-Version | 2.1.15 |
| Precedence | list |
| List-Id | General discussion list for the Python programming language <python-list.python.org> |
| List-Unsubscribe | <https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-list>, <mailto:python-list-request@python.org?subject=unsubscribe> |
| List-Archive | <http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/> |
| List-Post | <mailto:python-list@python.org> |
| List-Help | <mailto:python-list-request@python.org?subject=help> |
| List-Subscribe | <https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list>, <mailto:python-list-request@python.org?subject=subscribe> |
| Newsgroups | comp.lang.python |
| Message-ID | <mailman.5799.1390325699.18130.python-list@python.org> (permalink) |
| Lines | 39 |
| NNTP-Posting-Host | 2001:888:2000:d::a6 |
| X-Trace | 1390325699 news.xs4all.nl 2911 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:60038 |
| X-Complaints-To | abuse@xs4all.nl |
| Xref | csiph.com comp.lang.python:64428 |
Show key headers only | View raw
On 1/21/2014 6:38 AM, Tim Chase wrote: > On 2014-01-21 00:00, xeysxeys@gmail.com wrote: >> Well, I retired early, and I guess now I've got some spare time to >> learn about programming, which always seemed rather mysterious. I >> am using an old mac as my main computer, and it runs os x 10.4 is >> this too old? It fills my needs, and I am on a fixed income and >> can't really afford to buy another. I think python would be a good >> starter language, based on what I've read on the net. > > It's certainly a great way to consume lots of hours :) > > Mac OS X 10.4 should come with an older version of Python > out-of-the-box. Someone else said that it comes with 2.5. That will be fine for many purposed. If you do use that, always make any classes you define a subclass of 'object' if nothing else. In other words, class MyClass(object): ... # instead of class MyClass: ... In Python 2, the second gives you an 'old-style' or 'classic' class. You do not need to learn about those. In Python 3, both forms give you new-style classes, which is what you should learn. There are a few other obsolete features to avoid, such as using strings for exceptions. > The install media should also include XCode if you > want to download the latest & greatest version of Python and install > that from source instead. If you can do that easily, I recommend starting with the latest Python 3, especially if you want to work with non-English (non-ascii) characters. -- Terry Jan Reedy
Back to comp.lang.python | Previous | Next — Previous in thread | Next in thread | Find similar | Unroll thread
Early retirement project? xeysxeys@gmail.com - 2014-01-21 00:00 -0800
Re: Early retirement project? Devin Jeanpierre <jeanpierreda@gmail.com> - 2014-01-21 00:30 -0800
Re: Early retirement project? Gregory Ewing <greg.ewing@canterbury.ac.nz> - 2014-01-22 00:25 +1300
Re: Early retirement project? Gregory Ewing <greg.ewing@canterbury.ac.nz> - 2014-01-22 00:20 +1300
Re: Early retirement project? Tim Chase <python.list@tim.thechases.com> - 2014-01-21 05:38 -0600
Re: Early retirement project? Larry Martell <larry.martell@gmail.com> - 2014-01-21 05:22 -0700
Re: Early retirement project? Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2014-01-21 15:25 +0000
Re: Early retirement project? Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2014-01-21 12:34 -0500
Re: Early retirement project? wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2014-01-22 00:18 -0800
Re: Early retirement project? Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-01-22 10:10 +0000
Re: Early retirement project? Neil Cerutti <neilc@norwich.edu> - 2014-01-22 13:39 +0000
Re: Early retirement project? Larry Martell <larry.martell@gmail.com> - 2014-01-22 06:45 -0700
Re: Early retirement project? Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-01-22 05:56 -0800
Re: Early retirement project? Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-01-22 14:28 +0000
Re: Early retirement project? Piet van Oostrum <piet@vanoostrum.org> - 2014-01-22 19:28 +0100
Re: Early retirement project? Gregory Ewing <greg.ewing@canterbury.ac.nz> - 2014-01-23 10:54 +1300
csiph-web