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Re: break in a module

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From Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com>
Date Thu, 16 Jun 2011 19:58:35 -0600
Subject Re: break in a module
To Erik Max Francis <max@alcyone.com>
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On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 7:21 PM, Erik Max Francis <max@alcyone.com> wrote:
>> This would, if I understand imports correctly, have ham() operate in
>> one namespace and spam() in another. Depending on what's being done,
>> that could be quite harmless, or it could be annoying (no sharing
>> module-level constants, etc).
>
> No, he's using `from ... import *`.  It dumps it all in the same namespace
> (which is usually why it's frowned upon, but in his example it's kind of the
> point).

The functions are defined in two separate global namespaces, though.
That means that the actual bindings visible to ham() are different
from the globals visible to spam().  Constants should be fine, but if
ham() modifies a global, then spam() won't see the change, and
vice-versa.

> Neither makes sense.  `break` exits out of looping structures, which the
> top-level code of a module most certainly is not.

Why does that matter?  It seems a bit like arguing that the `in`
keyword can't be used for membership testing, because it's already in
use in the for-loop syntax.  It wouldn't be the first time Python has
reused a keyword.

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Re: break in a module Ethan Furman <ethan@stoneleaf.us> - 2011-06-14 16:28 -0700
  Re: break in a module Erik Max Francis <max@alcyone.com> - 2011-06-14 16:51 -0700
    Re: break in a module Eric Snow <ericsnowcurrently@gmail.com> - 2011-06-14 18:51 -0600
      Re: break in a module Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2011-06-15 11:33 +1000
        Re: break in a module Eric Snow <ericsnowcurrently@gmail.com> - 2011-06-14 20:21 -0600
          Re: break in a module Erik Max Francis <max@alcyone.com> - 2011-06-16 15:09 -0700
        Re: break in a module Dave Angel <davea@ieee.org> - 2011-06-15 00:02 -0400
      Re: break in a module Erik Max Francis <max@alcyone.com> - 2011-06-16 15:07 -0700
        Re: break in a module Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2011-06-17 09:27 +1000
          Re: break in a module Erik Max Francis <max@alcyone.com> - 2011-06-16 16:29 -0700
            Re: break in a module Eric Snow <ericsnowcurrently@gmail.com> - 2011-06-16 18:00 -0600
            Re: break in a module Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2011-06-17 10:01 +1000
              Re: break in a module Erik Max Francis <max@alcyone.com> - 2011-06-16 18:13 -0700
                Re: break in a module Ethan Furman <ethan@stoneleaf.us> - 2011-06-16 19:17 -0700
                Re: break in a module Erik Max Francis <max@alcyone.com> - 2011-06-16 21:21 -0700
                Re: break in a module Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2011-06-16 22:53 -0600
        Re: break in a module Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2011-06-17 00:48 +0000
          Re: break in a module Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2011-06-17 10:57 +1000
            Re: break in a module Erik Max Francis <max@alcyone.com> - 2011-06-16 18:21 -0700
              Re: break in a module Ethan Furman <ethan@stoneleaf.us> - 2011-06-16 19:11 -0700
              Re: break in a module Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2011-06-16 19:58 -0600
                Re: break in a module Erik Max Francis <max@alcyone.com> - 2011-06-16 21:24 -0700
                Re: break in a module Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2011-06-16 22:50 -0600
                Re: break in a module Erik Max Francis <max@alcyone.com> - 2011-06-16 22:20 -0700
                Re: break in a module Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2011-06-17 15:56 +1000
                Re: break in a module Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2011-06-17 06:00 +0000
                Re: break in a module Erik Max Francis <max@alcyone.com> - 2011-06-17 00:09 -0700
                Re: break in a module Cameron Simpson <cs@zip.com.au> - 2011-06-18 12:36 +1000
                Re: break in a module Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2011-06-18 03:50 +0000
                Re: break in a module Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2011-06-18 14:31 +1000
                Re: break in a module Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2011-06-18 04:49 +0000
                Re: break in a module Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2011-06-18 15:06 +1000
                Re: break in a module Cameron Simpson <cs@zip.com.au> - 2011-06-21 20:04 +1000
                Re: break in a module Eric Snow <ericsnowcurrently@gmail.com> - 2011-06-17 00:25 -0600
    Re: break in a module Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2011-06-15 11:33 +1000

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