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| Date | Thu, 16 Jan 2014 12:25:42 +1100 |
| From | Cameron Simpson <cs@zip.com.au> |
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On 15Jan2014 20:09, Rita <rmorgan466@gmail.com> wrote:
> I would like to do some data validation when its going to a class.
>
> class Foo(object):
> def __init__(self):
> pass
>
> I know its frowned upon to do work in the __init__() method and only
> declarations should be there.
This rule of thumb does not mean "do nothing". It may be perfetly
vaid to open file or database connections in __init__, etc, depending
on what the object is for.
The post condition of __init__ is that the object is appropriately
initialised. The definition of appropriate depends on you.
Data validation is very much an appropriate thing to do in __init__.
If it highly recommended to validate your inputs if that is feasible
and easy at __init__ time. It is far better to get a ValueError
exception (the usual exception for invalid values, which an invalid
initialiser certainly is) at object creation time than at some less
convenient time later during use.
> So, should i create a function called validateData(self) inside foo?
It might be a good idea to make a (probably private) method to check
for validity and/or integrity, eg:
def _is_valid(self):
... checks here, return True if ok ...
because that would allow you to call this at arbitrary other times
if you need to debug.
However, I would also have obvious validity checks in __init__
itself on the supplied values. Eg:
def __init__(self, size, lifetime):
if size < 1:
raise ValueError("size must be >= 1, received: %r" % (size,))
if lifetime <= 0:
raise ValueError("lifetime must be > 0, received: %r" % (lifetime,))
Trivial, fast. Fails early. Note that the exception reports the
receive value; very handy for simple errors like passing utterly
the wrong thing (eg a filename when you wanted a counter, or something
like that).
Certainly also put a test of self._is_valid() at the bottom of
__init__, at least during the debug phase. Provided _is_valid() is
cheap and fast. For example, it would be appropriate to check that
a filename was a string. It would probably (your call) be inappropriate
to open the file or checksum its contents etc etc.
Cheers,
--
Cameron Simpson <cs@zip.com.au>
I distrust a research person who is always obviously busy on a task.
- Robert Frosch, VP, GM Research
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