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Re: "More About Unicode in Python 2 and 3"

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On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 3:49 PM, Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> wrote:
> Thanks.  But, I see I didn't formulate my problem statement well.  I was
> (naively) assuming there wouldn't be a built-in codec for rot-13.  Let's
> assume there isn't; I was trying to find a case where you had to treat
> the data as integers in one place and text in another.  How would you do
> that?

I assumed that you would have checked that one, and answered
accordingly :) Though I did dig into the EBCDIC part of the question.

My thinking is that, if you're working with integers, you probably
mean either bytes (so encode it before you do stuff - typical for
crypto) or codepoints / Unicode ordinals (so use ord()/chr()). In
other languages there are ways to treat strings as though they were
arrays of integers (lots of C-derived languages treat 'a' as 97 and
"a"[0] as 97 also; some extend this to the full Unicode range), and
even there, I almost never actually use that identity much. There's
only one case that I can think of where I did a lot of
string<->integer-array transmutation, and that was using a diff
function that expected an integer array - if the transformation to and
from strings hadn't been really easy, that function would probably
have been written to take strings.

The Py2 str.translate() method was a little clunky to use, but
presumably fast to execute - you build up a lookup table and translate
through that. The Py3 equivalent takes a dict mapping the from and to
values. Pretty easy to use. And it lets you work with codepoints or
strings, as you please.

ChrisA

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Re: "More About Unicode in Python 2 and 3" Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-01-06 13:55 +1100
  Re: "More About Unicode in Python 2 and 3" Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2014-01-05 23:24 -0500
    Re: "More About Unicode in Python 2 and 3" Tim Chase <python.list@tim.thechases.com> - 2014-01-05 22:41 -0600
      Re: "More About Unicode in Python 2 and 3" Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2014-01-05 23:49 -0500
        Re: "More About Unicode in Python 2 and 3" Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-01-06 15:59 +1100
    Re: "More About Unicode in Python 2 and 3" Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-01-06 15:51 +1100
    Re: "More About Unicode in Python 2 and 3" Tim Chase <python.list@tim.thechases.com> - 2014-01-06 05:49 -0600
    Re: "More About Unicode in Python 2 and 3" Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-01-07 03:24 +1100
      Re: "More About Unicode in Python 2 and 3" Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-01-07 03:30 +1100
    Re: "More About Unicode in Python 2 and 3" Serhiy Storchaka <storchaka@gmail.com> - 2014-01-06 22:20 +0200
    Re: "More About Unicode in Python 2 and 3" Serhiy Storchaka <storchaka@gmail.com> - 2014-01-06 22:21 +0200
    Re: "More About Unicode in Python 2 and 3" Tim Chase <python.list@tim.thechases.com> - 2014-01-06 14:42 -0600
    Re: "More About Unicode in Python 2 and 3" Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-01-06 20:47 +0000
    Re: "More About Unicode in Python 2 and 3" Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-01-07 10:06 +1100

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