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| Date | Wed, 5 Dec 2012 17:40:51 +0100 |
| From | Bruno Dupuis <python.ml.bruno.dupuis@lisael.org> |
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| Subject | Re: why does dead code costs time? |
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On Wed, Dec 05, 2012 at 04:15:59PM +0000, Neil Cerutti wrote:
> On 2012-12-05, Bruno Dupuis <python.ml.bruno.dupuis@lisael.org> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I'm interested in compilers optimizations, so I study python
> > compilation process
> >
> > I ran that script:
> >
> > import timeit
> >
> > def f(x):
> > return None
> >
> > def g(x):
> > return None
> > print(x)
> >
> > number = 10000
> >
> > print(timeit.timeit('f(1)',setup="from __main__ import f", number=number))
> > print(timeit.timeit('g(1)',setup="from __main__ import g", number=number))
> >
> > print(dis.dis(f))
> > print(dis.dis(g))
> >
> > It gives this output:
> >
> > 0.003460251959040761
> > 0.004164454061537981
> > 17 0 LOAD_CONST 0 (None)
> > 3 RETURN_VALUE
> > None
> > 20 0 LOAD_GLOBAL 0 (None)
> > 3 RETURN_VALUE
> >
> > 21 4 LOAD_GLOBAL 1 (print)
> > 7 LOAD_FAST 0 (x)
> > 10 CALL_FUNCTION 1 (1 positional, 0 keyword pair)
> > 13 POP_TOP
> > None
> >
> > I do not understand why the dead code `print(x)` takes time (~20% in
> > that case). As we see in the opcode, a call to g(1) returns immediately, so
> > there should be no delay at all. Where am i wrong?
> >
> > mmhh... it comes to me now that the gap must be in function loading time...
> > I'll check ceval.c
> >
> > However, isn't there a room for a slight optim here? (in this case, the
> > dead code is obvious, but it may be hidden by complex loops and
> > conditions)
>
> Maybe it's the difference between LOAD_CONST and LOAD_GLOBAL. We
> can wonder why g uses the latter.
Good point! I didn't even noticed that. It's weird... Maybe the
difference comes from a peehole optim on f which is not possible on g as
g is to complex.
>
> --
> Neil Cerutti
> --
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--
Bruno Dupuis
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why does dead code costs time? Bruno Dupuis <python.ml.bruno.dupuis@lisael.org> - 2012-12-05 16:46 +0100
Re: why does dead code costs time? Neil Cerutti <neilc@norwich.edu> - 2012-12-05 16:15 +0000
Re: why does dead code costs time? Bruno Dupuis <python.ml.bruno.dupuis@lisael.org> - 2012-12-05 17:40 +0100
Re: why does dead code costs time? Ramchandra Apte <maniandram01@gmail.com> - 2012-12-09 06:11 -0800
Re: why does dead code costs time? Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-12-09 16:47 +0000
Re: why does dead code costs time? Ramchandra Apte <maniandram01@gmail.com> - 2012-12-12 21:23 -0800
Re: why does dead code costs time? Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-12-13 06:01 +0000
Re: why does dead code costs time? rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2012-12-12 22:27 -0800
Re: why does dead code costs time? Cameron Simpson <cs@zip.com.au> - 2012-12-13 17:51 +1100
Re: why does dead code costs time? rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2012-12-12 22:59 -0800
Re: why does dead code costs time? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-12-13 18:03 +1100
Re: why does dead code costs time? Ramchandra Apte <maniandram01@gmail.com> - 2012-12-12 21:23 -0800
Re: why does dead code costs time? Bruno Dupuis <python.ml.bruno.dupuis@lisael.org> - 2012-12-05 18:19 +0100
Re: why does dead code costs time? Tim Roberts <timr@probo.com> - 2012-12-05 21:20 -0800
Re: why does dead code costs time? Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-12-05 17:34 +0000
Re: why does dead code costs time? Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-12-05 17:39 +0000
Re: why does dead code costs time? Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2012-12-05 10:59 -0700
Re: why does dead code costs time? Bruno Dupuis <python.ml.bruno.dupuis@lisael.org> - 2012-12-05 19:24 +0100
Re: why does dead code costs time? Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2012-12-05 15:41 -0500
Re: why does dead code costs time? Chris Kaynor <ckaynor@zindagigames.com> - 2012-12-05 12:49 -0800
Re: why does dead code costs time? Bruno Dupuis <python.ml.bruno.dupuis@lisael.org> - 2012-12-05 21:50 +0100
Re: why does dead code costs time? Bruno Dupuis <python.ml.bruno.dupuis@lisael.org> - 2012-12-05 22:58 +0100
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