Groups | Search | Server Info | Keyboard shortcuts | Login | Register [http] [https] [nntp] [nntps]

Groups > comp.lang.python > #36773

Re: PyWart (Terminolgy): "Class"

Path csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!news.albasani.net!newsfeed.straub-nv.de!border2.nntp.ams2.giganews.com!border4.nntp.ams.giganews.com!border2.nntp.ams.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed1.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail
Return-Path <rosuav@gmail.com>
X-Original-To python-list@python.org
Delivered-To python-list@mail.python.org
X-Spam-Status OK 0.037
X-Spam-Evidence '*H*': 0.93; '*S*': 0.00; 'assign': 0.07; 'referring': 0.07; '"class"': 0.09; 'propagating': 0.09; 'language': 0.14; 'already!': 0.16; 'arbitrarily.': 0.16; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'logical.': 0.16; 'resist': 0.16; 'mon,': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.17; 'jan': 0.18; 'code,': 0.18; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.25; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.27; 'received:209.85.212': 0.28; 'source': 0.29; "i'm": 0.29; 'sense': 0.31; 'johnson': 0.32; 'could': 0.32; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.33; 'languages': 0.33; 'version': 0.34; 'received:google.com': 0.34; 'updated': 0.34; 'done': 0.34; 'consistent': 0.35; 'pm,': 0.35; 'received:209.85': 0.35; 'but': 0.36; 'programmers': 0.36; 'should': 0.36; 'subject: (': 0.36; 'received:209': 0.37; 'subject:: ': 0.38; 'daily': 0.38; 'sure': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'header:Received:5': 0.40; 'end': 0.40; 'you.': 0.61; 'night': 0.62; 'more': 0.63; 'saturday': 0.65; 'dear': 0.66; 'grow': 0.74; '2013': 0.84; 'absolutely.': 0.84; 'rick': 0.91; 'subject:Class': 0.91
DKIM-Signature v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=1iLPg2kwjz6/adbPe6mf+SuJ8GgU/rpcsCj+QaeyCcg=; b=BAEuDqgso/uQS4C7EGPRaQcU+xmD+u1KQgxkZ3ipdrfq0037qtFgAx+w9k7eTsNCLq x3Wv82xlotLi3cYwXwqjuHjBSmsxL6sch+5vWyLs2IVrhR1GTsaxuXzg+maGoLQgrao1 C4zYaL9rsb16tIHjmci7ZgVA++3e/17yiUHyURoTyUGMGs1Sv8PjAPlq3Y0ZfaCte/Oe pFcFCwZMRVQmWcHyODgZ0bB4Dui0f3GdX52l9SDYZeqqCQed7vaMltKv3N97bxsyL9OJ yP5E94KuZPqaJJ3PG7M4WYFsGLCmKbzCkRjh93SlVqH447GEURrYq+f+a14bJ4aJWQsP rJCA==
MIME-Version 1.0
In-Reply-To <5171d66e-580e-4bb3-bb8d-7e3f1de70ec4@googlegroups.com>
References <5171d66e-580e-4bb3-bb8d-7e3f1de70ec4@googlegroups.com>
Date Mon, 14 Jan 2013 18:10:10 +1100
Subject Re: PyWart (Terminolgy): "Class"
From Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com>
To python-list@python.org
Content-Type text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding quoted-printable
X-BeenThere python-list@python.org
X-Mailman-Version 2.1.15
Precedence list
List-Id General discussion list for the Python programming language <python-list.python.org>
List-Unsubscribe <http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-list>, <mailto:python-list-request@python.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive <http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/>
List-Post <mailto:python-list@python.org>
List-Help <mailto:python-list-request@python.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe <http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list>, <mailto:python-list-request@python.org?subject=subscribe>
Newsgroups comp.lang.python
Message-ID <mailman.489.1358147413.2939.python-list@python.org> (permalink)
Lines 18
NNTP-Posting-Host 2001:888:2000:d::a6
X-Trace 1358147413 news.xs4all.nl 6977 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:35066
X-Complaints-To abuse@xs4all.nl
Xref csiph.com comp.lang.python:36773

Show key headers only | View raw

On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 5:46 PM, Rick Johnson
<rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear language designers: Stop propagating such foolish terminology! End the infection of "class" in all source code, docs, and daily conversation. Be more consistent and logical. Resist temptation to use poor terminology simply because other languages have done so before you. Grow a pair already!

Absolutely. We should learn from Lars Pensjö and start referring to
"blueprint objects" and "clones". Or take the updated version and call
them "programs" and "objects". I'm sure that'll make a huge amount
more sense than using the terms that millions of programmers already
understand.

Alternatively, we could take the Humpty Dumpty approach and assign
meanings to names arbitrarily. But wait till Saturday night when they
come for their wages.

ChrisA

Back to comp.lang.python | Previous | Next — Previous in thread | Next in thread | Find similar | Unroll thread

Thread

PyWart (Terminolgy): "Class" Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2013-01-13 22:46 -0800
  Re: PyWart (Terminolgy): "Class" Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-01-14 18:10 +1100
  Re: PyWart (Terminolgy): "Class" Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2013-01-13 23:32 -0800
    Re: PyWart (Terminolgy): "Class" Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-01-14 18:56 +1100
      Re: PyWart (Terminolgy): "Class" Dan Sommers <dan@tombstonezero.net> - 2013-01-14 14:46 +0000
    Re: PyWart (Terminolgy): "Class" Tim Chase <python.list@tim.thechases.com> - 2013-01-14 08:30 -0600
    Re: PyWart (Terminolgy): "Class" Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2013-01-14 13:59 -0500
      Re: PyWart (Terminolgy): "Class" Peter <peter.milliken@gmail.com> - 2013-01-14 11:43 -0800
        Re: PyWart (Terminolgy): "Class" Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-01-15 07:57 +1100
          Re: PyWart (Terminolgy): "Class" Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-01-15 02:08 +0000
            Re: PyWart (Terminolgy): "Class" "D'Arcy J.M. Cain" <darcy@druid.net> - 2013-01-14 22:28 -0500
              Re: PyWart (Terminolgy): "Class" alex23 <wuwei23@gmail.com> - 2013-01-15 00:44 -0800
        Re: PyWart (Terminolgy): "Class" Tim Delaney <tim.delaney@aptare.com> - 2013-01-15 08:04 +1100
      Re: PyWart (Terminolgy): "Class" Peter <peter.milliken@gmail.com> - 2013-01-14 11:43 -0800
        Re: PyWart (Terminolgy): "Class" "Rhodri James" <rhodri@wildebst.demon.co.uk> - 2013-01-14 22:53 +0000
  Re: PyWart (Terminolgy): "Class" Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-01-14 17:26 +0000
    Re: PyWart (Terminolgy): "Class" Tim Chase <python.list@tim.thechases.com> - 2013-01-14 12:00 -0600
      Re: PyWart (Terminolgy): "Class" Dan Sommers <dan@tombstonezero.net> - 2013-01-15 00:51 +0000
    Re: PyWart (Terminolgy): "Class" Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2013-01-14 22:54 -0800
      Re: PyWart (Terminolgy): "Class" Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-01-15 09:01 +0000

csiph-web