Groups | Search | Server Info | Keyboard shortcuts | Login | Register [http] [https] [nntp] [nntps]


Groups > comp.lang.python > #63086

Re: Debugging on the Mac question.

Path csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder4.news.weretis.net!rt.uk.eu.org!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed4.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail
Return-Path <mhysnm1964@gmail.com>
X-Original-To python-list@python.org
Delivered-To python-list@mail.python.org
X-Spam-Status OK 0.002
X-Spam-Evidence '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'python.': 0.02; 'programmer': 0.03; 'url:sourceforge': 0.03; 'debug': 0.07; 'debugging': 0.07; 'converts': 0.09; 'debugger': 0.09; 'output,': 0.09; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.11; '<>.': 0.14; 'windows': 0.15; 'eclipse': 0.16; 'investigate': 0.16; 'pdb': 0.16; 'scripts.': 0.16; 'subject:question.': 0.16; 'variables,': 0.16; 'all.': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'looked': 0.18; 'module': 0.19; 'pfxlen:0': 0.19; '(the': 0.22; 'command': 0.22; 'machine': 0.22; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.22; 'sean': 0.24; 'java': 0.24; 'paul': 0.24; 'cc:2**0': 0.24; 'cc:no real name:2**0': 0.24; 'script': 0.25; 'switch': 0.26; 'least': 0.26; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'generally': 0.29; "doesn't": 0.30; 'url:mailman': 0.30; 'app.': 0.31; 'perl': 0.31; 'writes:': 0.31; 'text': 0.33; 'worked': 0.33; 'url:python': 0.33; 'running': 0.33; 'level.': 0.33; 'mac': 0.33; 'reader': 0.33; 'screen': 0.34; 'subject:the': 0.34; 'but': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'really': 0.36; 'idle': 0.36; 'url:listinfo': 0.36; 'charset:us-ascii': 0.36; 'thanks': 0.36; 'url:org': 0.36; 'step': 0.37; 'message-id:@gmail.com': 0.38; 'url:library': 0.38; 'window': 0.38; 'pm,': 0.38; 'ability': 0.39; 'does': 0.39; 'url:mail': 0.40; 'how': 0.40; 'break': 0.61; 'full': 0.61; 'url:3': 0.61; 'simple': 0.61; 'header:Message- Id:1': 0.63; 'more': 0.64; 'road': 0.65; 'biggest': 0.67; 'readers': 0.68; 'peter,': 0.84; 'points,': 0.84; 'preventing': 0.84; 'speech': 0.84; 'feet': 0.93
DKIM-Signature v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=OpwxQM20Eltmo1Rk8sMRbjDF8doxfVs5sfJpVeIhwqs=; b=oIpxLTAM52ED8+hLyV3V3nXsdpZJlsGoUYDrA6kCPqyXBBIDgjr02QTuVlMAQjbmOp GqD8P+dTrKUxZvuBVoE+ki1uIEY9t6JfLsHwX/TXKTbMorlaMvk7IAvPgYgc+Am2iGoX M7VgKE+NMHdP0+SE5U7T8+7bzoyWMFc0EdLg8QjlRsy7XpE/TPU9DUbsP1vBq6iO5caO dEb+Ri2YDFlLJHj5iYs2Su6LE7SRT2zeIa1N5PvvU8Y3XEEWzT/GHwBSIqcibZBuSkGx kCyNsqtGSVZWVhBxkW8qZDbcgTx5xTgdTC29JoK8AtkwYBdw0S4piztwACM5bz+zs3LH ZS4g==
X-Received by 10.68.245.200 with SMTP id xq8mr93985936pbc.21.1388752738758; Fri, 03 Jan 2014 04:38:58 -0800 (PST)
Content-Type text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Mime-Version 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.6 \(1510\))
Subject Re: Debugging on the Mac question.
From Sean Murphy <mhysnm1964@gmail.com>
In-Reply-To <87bnzt301n.fsf@rudin.co.uk>
Date Fri, 3 Jan 2014 23:38:53 +1100
Content-Transfer-Encoding quoted-printable
References <mailman.4841.1388739343.18130.python-list@python.org> <87bnzt301n.fsf@rudin.co.uk>
To Paul Rudin <paul.nospam@rudin.co.uk>
X-Mailer Apple Mail (2.1510)
X-Mailman-Approved-At Fri, 03 Jan 2014 22:27:48 +0100
Cc python-list@python.org
X-BeenThere python-list@python.org
X-Mailman-Version 2.1.15
Precedence list
List-Id General discussion list for the Python programming language <python-list.python.org>
List-Unsubscribe <https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-list>, <mailto:python-list-request@python.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive <http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/>
List-Post <mailto:python-list@python.org>
List-Help <mailto:python-list-request@python.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe <https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list>, <mailto:python-list-request@python.org?subject=subscribe>
Newsgroups comp.lang.python
Message-ID <mailman.4868.1388784469.18130.python-list@python.org> (permalink)
Lines 48
NNTP-Posting-Host 2001:888:2000:d::a6
X-Trace 1388784469 news.xs4all.nl 2966 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:52589
X-Complaints-To abuse@xs4all.nl
Xref csiph.com comp.lang.python:63086

Show key headers only | View raw


PETER,

thanks Peter, I have already found the PDB module and have had a play with it. It will do for now.
On 03/01/2014, at 8:08 PM, Paul Rudin <paul.nospam@rudin.co.uk> wrote:

> Sean Murphy <mhysnm1964@gmail.com> writes:
> 
> 
>> I am a Vision Impaired programmer on the Mac and Window platforms. I have
>> started to learn Python. The biggest road block I have is the ability of
>> debugging my simple scripts. The IDLE program does not work with the screen
>> readers I use on the Mac or Windows. A screen reader is a program that grabs
>> the text on the screen and converts it into speech output, at least this is the
>> 50000 feet explanation.  I cannot see the screen at all.
>> 
>> I have looked at eclipse and it doesn't work with Voice-Over (the screen reader
>> on the Mac). I have java issues on my windows machine preventing me running
>> this app.
>> 
>> If I use $python -d script.py the debugger doesn't seem to trigger on the mac. 
>> 
>> So how I can perform a debug on a script so I can step through it, set up break
>> points, watch variables, etc.
>> 
>> It is really annoying me, since under Perl I just added the -d switch and had a
>> full debugger that worked at the console level.
> 
> For command line debugging see
> <http://docs.python.org/3/library/pdb.html>. 
> 
> 
> More generally you might want to investigate
> <http://emacspeak.sourceforge.net/> (disclaimer - I have never used
> this, but from what you say you might find it useful).
> -- 
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Back to comp.lang.python | Previous | NextPrevious in thread | Find similar | Unroll thread


Thread

Debugging on the Mac question. Sean Murphy <mhysnm1964@gmail.com> - 2014-01-03 15:17 +1100
  Re: Debugging on the Mac question. Paul Rudin <paul.nospam@rudin.co.uk> - 2014-01-03 09:08 +0000
    Re: Debugging on the Mac question. Sean Murphy <mhysnm1964@gmail.com> - 2014-01-03 23:38 +1100

csiph-web