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Re: Question

From Andrew Farrell <amfarrell@mit.edu>
Newsgroups comp.lang.python
Subject Re: Question
Date 2016-03-07 14:00 -0600
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I'm going to echo Chris Angelo's suggestion #2 to use a python
distribution. This page <https://www.continuum.io/downloads> has the links
to download Anaconda. It is free and if you need to download libraries
which require compiled external code like numpy you can just run `conda
install numpy`.

On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 1:47 PM, Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tue, Mar 8, 2016 at 5:51 AM, Jon Ribbens
> <jon+usenet@unequivocal.co.uk> wrote:
> > I must say that Python on Windows was a very poor experience indeed,
> > "virtualenv" does not work and "venv" refuses to create the 'activate'
> > shell script so does not work either (and pygame doesn't work, but
> > that's presumably not Python's fault).
>
> To be quite frank, Python on Windows has had a *lot* of problems, and
> most of them have been the fault of Windows. Starting with Python 3.5,
> there've been some big packaging changes that ought to make Windows
> Python a bit easier to use; however, there've been some teething
> troubles, and there are still some ways in which setting up a
> properly-working Python is a pain.
>
> So you have a few choices:
>
> 1) Stick with the vanilla Python on the vanilla Windows. It's not
> horrendous, but there will be rough edges. Report those rough edges,
> and hopefully they can be fixed in time for 3.6 (or even 3.5.2).
>
> 2) Use a different Python distribution, eg Anaconda or ActiveState.
> Some of them cost money; when you pay money for open source software,
> what you're getting is a level of support, which will mean you can
> complain to them when something doesn't work, and insist that they fix
> it. This may or may not give you better results than option 1.
>
> 3) Use standard Python, and ditch Windows. This is what I do. :)
>
> 4) Keep using Windows, but do your Python work in a virtual machine.
> Either full-on virtualization software like VirtualBox or VMWare, or
> something that gives you a web browser interface to a VM hosted in the
> cloud (eg Cloud 9 or Nitrous).
>
> Personally, I don't see any reason to run "real Windows" on any of my
> systems. Windows programs get run under Wine or VirtualBox, never
> directly on the hardware. But if your needs are different, there are
> plenty of ways to improve your Windows+Python setup; just be patient,
> and accept that you might have a bit of extra work to do.
>
> ChrisA
> --
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
>

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Re: Question Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2016-03-07 09:57 -0700
  Re: Question Jon Ribbens <jon+usenet@unequivocal.co.uk> - 2016-03-07 18:09 +0000
    Re: Question mm0fmf <none@invalid.com> - 2016-03-07 18:18 +0000
      Re: Question Jon Ribbens <jon+usenet@unequivocal.co.uk> - 2016-03-07 18:51 +0000
        Re: Question Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2016-03-07 12:29 -0700
          Re: Question Jon Ribbens <jon+usenet@unequivocal.co.uk> - 2016-03-08 01:41 +0000
            Re: Question justin walters <walters.justin01@gmail.com> - 2016-03-07 17:59 -0800
              Re: Question Jon Ribbens <jon+usenet@unequivocal.co.uk> - 2016-03-08 10:24 +0000
                Re: Question justin walters <walters.justin01@gmail.com> - 2016-03-08 08:47 -0800
                Re: Question Jon Ribbens <jon+usenet@unequivocal.co.uk> - 2016-03-08 16:53 +0000
            Re: Question Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2016-03-08 10:19 -0700
              Re: Question Jon Ribbens <jon+usenet@unequivocal.co.uk> - 2016-03-08 17:56 +0000
                Re: Question Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2016-03-08 11:08 -0700
                Re: Question Jon Ribbens <jon+usenet@unequivocal.co.uk> - 2016-03-08 18:08 +0000
              Re: Question Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2016-03-09 10:52 +1100
                Re: Question Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2016-03-09 11:13 +1100
                Re: Question Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2016-03-08 18:27 -0700
                Re: Question Jon Ribbens <jon+usenet@unequivocal.co.uk> - 2016-03-09 12:28 +0000
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                Re: Question Jon Ribbens <jon+usenet@unequivocal.co.uk> - 2016-03-09 12:52 +0000
        Re: Question Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2016-03-08 06:47 +1100
          Re: Question Jon Ribbens <jon+usenet@unequivocal.co.uk> - 2016-03-08 01:33 +0000
        Re: Question Andrew Farrell <amfarrell@mit.edu> - 2016-03-07 14:00 -0600
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