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Re: zip as iterator and bad/good practices

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On 13 June 2015 at 08:17, Steven D'Aprano
<steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> wrote:
> On Sat, 13 Jun 2015 13:32:59 +0800, jimages wrote:
>
>> I am a newbie. I also have been confused when I read the tutorial. It
>> recommends make a copy before looping. Then I try.
>> #--------------------------
>> Test = [1, 2]
>> For i in Test:
>>     Test.append(i)
>> #--------------------------
>
> You don't make a copy of Test here. You could try this instead:
>
> Test = [1, 2]
> copy_test = Test[:]  # [:] makes a slice copy of the whole list
> for i in copy_test:  # iterate over the copy
>     Test.append(i)  # and append to the original
>
> print(Test)
>
>
> But an easier way is:
>
> Test = [1, 2]
> Test.extend(Test)
> print(Test)

I can't see anything in the docs that specify the behaviour that
occurs here. If I change it to

    Test.extend(iter(Test))

then it borks my system in 1s after consuming 8GB of RAM (I recovered
with killall python in the tty).

According to the docs:
"""
list.extend(L)

Extend the list by appending all the items in the given list;
equivalent to a[len(a):] = L.
"""
https://docs.python.org/2/tutorial/datastructures.html#more-on-lists

The alternate form

    Test[len(Test):] = Test

is equivalent but

    Test[len(Test):] = iter(Test)

is not since it doesn't bork my system.

I looked here:
https://docs.python.org/2/library/stdtypes.html#mutable-sequence-types
but I don't see anything that specifies how self-referential slice
assignment should behave.

I checked under pypy and all behaviour is the same but I'm not sure if
this shouldn't be considered implementation-defined or undefined
behaviour. It's not hard to see how a rearrangement of the list.extend
method would lead to a change of behaviour and I can't see that the
current behaviour is really guaranteed by the language and in fact
it's inconsistent with the docs for list.extend.

As an aside they say that pypy is fast but it took about 10 times
longer than cpython to bork my system. :)

--
Oscar

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zip as iterator and bad/good practices Fabien <fabien.maussion@gmail.com> - 2015-06-12 17:00 +0200
  Re: zip as iterator and bad/good practices Fabien <fabien.maussion@gmail.com> - 2015-06-12 17:05 +0200
  Re: zip as iterator and bad/good practices Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2015-06-12 09:26 -0600
    Re: zip as iterator and bad/good practices Fabien <fabien.maussion@gmail.com> - 2015-06-12 17:34 +0200
    Re: zip as iterator and bad/good practices Fabien <fabien.maussion@gmail.com> - 2015-06-12 17:59 +0200
  Re: zip as iterator and bad/good practices Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-06-12 17:22 +0100
  Re: zip as iterator and bad/good practices Laura Creighton <lac@openend.se> - 2015-06-12 22:34 +0200
  Re: zip as iterator and bad/good practices Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2015-06-12 19:27 -0400
  Re: zip as iterator and bad/good practices Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2015-06-12 19:43 -0400
    Re: zip as iterator and bad/good practices sohcahtoa82@gmail.com - 2015-06-12 17:02 -0700
      Re: zip as iterator and bad/good practices Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2015-06-13 10:26 +1000
        Re: zip as iterator and bad/good practices sohcahtoa82@gmail.com - 2015-06-12 17:39 -0700
  Re: zip as iterator and bad/good practices jimages <jimages123@gmail.com> - 2015-06-13 13:32 +0800
    Re: zip as iterator and bad/good practices Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2015-06-13 07:17 +0000
      Re: zip as iterator and bad/good practices Oscar Benjamin <oscar.j.benjamin@gmail.com> - 2015-06-13 13:48 +0100
        Re: zip as iterator and bad/good practices Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2015-06-13 16:16 +0000

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