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On <some multitude of times>, CM <cmpython@gmail.com> wrote:
> What I was thinking of was that if you are going to sell software, you want to make it as easy as possible, and that includes not making the potential customer have to install anything, or even agree to allow you to "explicitly" install a runtime on their computer.  If the potential customer just sees, clicks, and installs, that should be the most they ought to have to do.

I don't really get what you are saying. Do you, or do you not, want it
installed?

> Also, many programs rely on 2-3 dependencies, and sometimes that is asking a lot of the end user to install.  (I know, I know, it shouldn't be...and with things like pip it really shouldn't be, but you know how it goes).
>
>> I responded (to some parts):
>> But why do they need to install it at all? If you're not installing
>> the .py file, then just include those dependencies in the archive --
>> .py files are tiny. If you are installing the .py with a setup.py
>> (like with the link I included), then just install them at the same
>> time.
>
> Maybe.  I'll have to think about it.  I'm referring to libaries as dependencies. So for example, though .py files are small, wxPython, for example, isn't tiny, nor are other libraries one might use.

Please excuse the fact I haven't done anything serious on Windows in
years so I'm not really sure what I'm saying. How does Windows deal
with dependencies?

It's going to have to be fetched at one point anyway, so that's either
at download-time, install-time or run-time. The first lets you just
add it to the archive, the second lets you deal with it through a good
standard distribution manager thing, the third is potentially crazy.
Hence, wutz za probem bruv?

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  Re: the general development using Python Joshua Landau <joshua.landau.ws@gmail.com> - 2013-07-09 02:59 +0100
  Re: the general development using Python Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-07-09 13:07 +1000
  Re: the general development using Python Joel Goldstick <joel.goldstick@gmail.com> - 2013-07-08 22:13 -0400
  Re: the general development using Python CM <cmpython@gmail.com> - 2013-07-08 21:46 -0700
    Re: the general development using Python Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-07-09 15:03 +1000
      Re: the general development using Python CM <cmpython@gmail.com> - 2013-07-09 16:29 -0700
    Re: the general development using Python Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2013-07-09 02:41 -0600
    Re: the general development using Python Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-07-09 23:59 +1000
    Re: the general development using Python Joshua Landau <joshua.landau.ws@gmail.com> - 2013-07-09 22:21 +0100
      Re: the general development using Python CM <cmpython@gmail.com> - 2013-07-09 16:38 -0700
  Re: the general development using Python Joshua Landau <joshua.landau.ws@gmail.com> - 2013-07-09 22:13 +0100
    Re: the general development using Python CM <cmpython@gmail.com> - 2013-07-09 16:35 -0700
      Re: the general development using Python Joshua Landau <joshua@landau.ws> - 2013-07-10 01:14 +0100
        Re: the general development using Python CM <cmpython@gmail.com> - 2013-07-09 19:16 -0700
          Re: the general development using Python Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-07-10 12:53 +1000
          Re: the general development using Python Joshua Landau <joshua@landau.ws> - 2013-07-10 05:12 +0100
            Re: the general development using Python CM <cmpython@gmail.com> - 2013-07-09 21:49 -0700
              Re: the general development using Python Joshua Landau <joshua@landau.ws> - 2013-07-10 06:49 +0100
                Re: the general development using Python CM <cmpython@gmail.com> - 2013-07-10 16:18 -0700
                Re: the general development using Python Joshua Landau <joshua@landau.ws> - 2013-07-11 00:57 +0100
                Re: the general development using Python CM <cmpython@gmail.com> - 2013-07-11 11:37 -0700
              Re: the general development using Python Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2013-07-10 16:10 -0600
  Re: the general development using Python Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2013-07-09 19:25 -0400

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