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Re: Unicode issue with Python v3.3

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Date 2013-04-10 23:56 +0100
Subject Re: Unicode issue with Python v3.3
From Arnaud Delobelle <arnodel@gmail.com>
Newsgroups comp.lang.python
Message-ID <mailman.428.1365634612.3114.python-list@python.org> (permalink)

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On 10 April 2013 09:28, Steven D'Aprano
<steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> wrote:
> On Tue, 09 Apr 2013 23:04:35 -0700, rusi wrote:
[...]
> I think it is quite unfair of you to mischaracterise the entire community
> response in this way. One person made a light-hearted, silly, unhelpful
> response. (As sarcasm, I'm afraid it missed the target.) Two people made
> good, sensible responses -- and you were not either of them.

Enough already with the thought police.

It was me who made the silly reply to the guy who was ranting about
everything being broken, giving us nothing to help in on, ending his
message in an edifying and in my judgement, largely rhetorical
"Suggestions?".  So I gave him some silly suggestions (*not* intended
to be sarcasm), and I'm not apologising for it.  At least I'm not
presuming to take the moral high ground at every half-opportunity.

Recently I gave a very quick reply to someone who was wondering why he
couldn't get the docstring from his descriptor - I didn't have the
time to expand because two of my kids had jumped on my knees almost as
soon as I'd got on the computer.  I decided to post the reply anyway
as I thought it would give the OP something to get started on and
nobody else seemed to have replied so far - but I got remonstrated for
not being complete enough in my reply!  What is that about?

AFAIK, this is not Python Customer Service, but a place for people who
are interested in Python to discuss problems and *freely* exchange
thoughts about the language and its ecosystem.  Over the year I've
posted the occasional silly message but I think my record is
overwhelmingly that I've tried to be helpful, and when I've needed
some help myself, I've got some great advice.  My first question on
this list was answered by Alex Martelli and nowadays I get most
excellent and concise tips from Peter Otten - thanks, Peter! If
there's one person on this list I don't want to offend, it's you!

So here's to lots more good and bad humour on this list, and the
occasional slightly un-pc remark even!

Cheers,

-- 
Arnaud

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Unicode issue with Python v3.3 Νίκος Γκρ33κ <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-04-09 14:10 -0700
  Re: Unicode issue with Python v3.3 Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2013-04-09 15:34 -0600
    Re: Unicode issue with Python v3.3 nagia.retsina@gmail.com - 2013-04-09 20:16 -0700
      Re: Unicode issue with Python v3.3 Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-04-10 04:25 +0000
        Re: Unicode issue with Python v3.3 Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-04-10 14:46 +1000
          Re: Unicode issue with Python v3.3 rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2013-04-09 22:06 -0700
            Re: Unicode issue with Python v3.3 rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2013-04-09 23:04 -0700
              Re: Unicode issue with Python v3.3 Antoine Pitrou <solipsis@pitrou.net> - 2013-04-10 07:04 +0000
              Re: Unicode issue with Python v3.3 Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-04-10 08:28 +0000
                People in the python community [was Re: Unicode issue with Python v3.3] Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-04-10 08:34 +0000
                Re: People in the python community [was Re: Unicode issue with Python v3.3] Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-04-10 10:31 +0100
                Re: People in the python community [was Re: Unicode issue with Python v3.3] Νίκος Γκρ33κ <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-04-10 03:50 -0700
                Re: People in the python community [was Re: Unicode issue with Python v3.3] Νίκος Γκρ33κ <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-04-10 03:50 -0700
                Re: People in the python community [was Re: Unicode issue with Python v3.3] Νίκος Γκρ33κ <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-04-10 03:53 -0700
                Re: People in the python community [was Re: Unicode issue with Python v3.3] Νίκος Γκρ33κ <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-04-10 03:53 -0700
                Re: People in the python community [was Re: Unicode issue with Python v3.3] Peter Otten <__peter__@web.de> - 2013-04-10 13:11 +0200
                Re: People in the python community [was Re: Unicode issue with Python v3.3] Peter Otten <__peter__@web.de> - 2013-04-10 13:13 +0200
                Re: People in the python community [was Re: Unicode issue with Python v3.3] Νίκος Γκρ33κ <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-04-10 07:43 -0700
                Re: People in the python community [was Re: Unicode issue with Python v3.3] Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-04-10 16:15 +0100
                Re: People in the python community [was Re: Unicode issue with Python v3.3] Νίκος Γκρ33κ <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-04-10 09:50 -0700
                Re: People in the python community [was Re: Unicode issue with Python v3.3] Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> - 2013-04-11 21:20 -0600
                Re: People in the python community [was Re: Unicode issue with Python v3.3] Νίκος Γκρ33κ <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-04-10 09:50 -0700
                Re: People in the python community [was Re: Unicode issue with Python v3.3] Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-04-11 01:19 +1000
                Re: People in the python community [was Re: Unicode issue with Python v3.3] Νίκος Γκρ33κ <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-04-10 07:43 -0700
                Re: Unicode issue with Python v3.3 Arnaud Delobelle <arnodel@gmail.com> - 2013-04-10 23:56 +0100
        Re: Unicode issue with Python v3.3 nagia.retsina@gmail.com - 2013-04-10 00:23 -0700
          Re: Unicode issue with Python v3.3 Νίκος Γκρ33κ <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-04-10 01:06 -0700
            Re: Unicode issue with Python v3.3 Cameron Simpson <cs@zip.com.au> - 2013-04-11 09:17 +1000
              Re: Unicode issue with Python v3.3 nagia.retsina@gmail.com - 2013-04-10 21:50 -0700
                Re: Unicode issue with Python v3.3 Cameron Simpson <cs@zip.com.au> - 2013-04-11 20:45 +1000
                Re: Unicode issue with Python v3.3 nagia.retsina@gmail.com - 2013-04-11 03:54 -0700
                Re: Unicode issue with Python v3.3 nagia.retsina@gmail.com - 2013-04-11 03:54 -0700
                Re: Unicode issue with Python v3.3 Nikos <nagia.retsina@gmail.com> - 2013-04-11 09:55 -0700
                Re: Unicode issue with Python v3.3 Cameron Simpson <cs@zip.com.au> - 2013-04-13 11:41 +1000
                Re: Unicode issue with Python v3.3 nagia.retsina@gmail.com - 2013-04-12 21:50 -0700
                Re: Unicode issue with Python v3.3 Cameron Simpson <cs@zip.com.au> - 2013-04-13 20:28 +1000
                Re: Unicode issue with Python v3.3 nagia.retsina@gmail.com - 2013-04-13 07:16 -0700
                Re: Unicode issue with Python v3.3 Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-04-14 01:45 +1000
                Re: Unicode issue with Python v3.3 Cameron Simpson <cs@zip.com.au> - 2013-04-14 10:01 +1000
                Re: Unicode issue with Python v3.3 nagia.retsina@gmail.com - 2013-04-13 07:16 -0700
                Re: Unicode issue with Python v3.3 nagia.retsina@gmail.com - 2013-04-12 21:50 -0700
                Re: Unicode issue with Python v3.3 Nikos <nagia.retsina@gmail.com> - 2013-04-11 09:55 -0700
              Re: Unicode issue with Python v3.3 nagia.retsina@gmail.com - 2013-04-10 21:50 -0700
                Re: Unicode issue with Python v3.3 nagia.retsina@gmail.com - 2013-04-11 00:13 -0700
                Re: Unicode issue with Python v3.3 nagia.retsina@gmail.com - 2013-04-11 00:13 -0700
                Re: Unicode issue with Python v3.3 Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-04-11 07:50 +0000
                Re: Unicode issue with Python v3.3 Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-04-11 08:20 +0000
                Re: Unicode issue with Python v3.3 nagia.retsina@gmail.com - 2013-04-11 03:07 -0700
                Re: Unicode issue with Python v3.3 Lele Gaifax <lele@metapensiero.it> - 2013-04-11 12:45 +0200
          Re: Unicode issue with Python v3.3 Nobody <nobody@nowhere.com> - 2013-04-10 19:08 +0100
            Re: Unicode issue with Python v3.3 Νίκος Γκρ33κ <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-04-10 11:25 -0700
              Re: Unicode issue with Python v3.3 Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2013-04-10 13:50 -0600
    Re: Unicode issue with Python v3.3 nagia.retsina@gmail.com - 2013-04-09 20:16 -0700
  Re: Unicode issue with Python v3.3 nagia.retsina@gmail.com - 2013-04-11 21:36 -0700
    Re: Unicode issue with Python v3.3 alex23 <wuwei23@gmail.com> - 2013-04-11 22:06 -0700
      Re: Unicode issue with Python v3.3 nagia.retsina@gmail.com - 2013-04-11 22:42 -0700
        Re: Unicode issue with Python v3.3 nagia.retsina@gmail.com - 2013-04-12 05:50 -0700
          Re: Unicode issue with Python v3.3 Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-04-12 23:14 +1000
            Re: Unicode issue with Python v3.3 nagia.retsina@gmail.com - 2013-04-12 06:18 -0700
              Re: Unicode issue with Python v3.3 Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-04-12 23:21 +1000
            Re: Unicode issue with Python v3.3 nagia.retsina@gmail.com - 2013-04-12 06:18 -0700
              Re: Unicode issue with Python v3.3 rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2013-04-12 06:29 -0700
                Re: Unicode issue with Python v3.3 nagia.retsina@gmail.com - 2013-04-12 07:36 -0700
                Re: Unicode issue with Python v3.3 Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2013-04-12 12:37 -0600
                Re: Unicode issue with Python v3.3 Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2013-04-12 14:49 -0400
                Re: Unicode issue with Python v3.3 nagia.retsina@gmail.com - 2013-04-12 13:48 -0700
                Re: Unicode issue with Python v3.3 nagia.retsina@gmail.com - 2013-04-12 13:48 -0700
  Re: Unicode issue with Python v3.3 nagia.retsina@gmail.com - 2013-04-13 23:00 -0700
    Re: Unicode issue with Python v3.3 Cameron Simpson <cs@zip.com.au> - 2013-04-14 19:28 +1000
      Re: Unicode issue with Python v3.3 nagia.retsina@gmail.com - 2013-04-14 04:22 -0700
        Re: Unicode issue with Python v3.3 Cameron Simpson <cs@zip.com.au> - 2013-04-18 09:00 +1000
          Re: Unicode issue with Python v3.3 Νίκος Γκρ33κ <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-04-17 20:37 -0700
          Re: Unicode issue with Python v3.3 Νίκος Γκρ33κ <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-04-17 20:37 -0700
          Re: Unicode issue with Python v3.3 Νίκος Γκρ33κ <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-04-19 12:16 -0700
      Re: Unicode issue with Python v3.3 nagia.retsina@gmail.com - 2013-04-14 04:22 -0700
      Re: Unicode issue with Python v3.3 Νίκος Γκρ33κ <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-04-15 11:42 -0700
      Re: Unicode issue with Python v3.3 Νίκος Γκρ33κ <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-04-15 11:42 -0700
      Re: Unicode issue with Python v3.3 nagia.retsina@gmail.com - 2013-04-16 23:56 -0700
        Re: Unicode issue with Python v3.3 Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-04-17 17:01 +1000
        Re: Unicode issue with Python v3.3 Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-04-17 17:32 +1000
      Re: Unicode issue with Python v3.3 nagia.retsina@gmail.com - 2013-04-16 23:56 -0700

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