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| Date | Fri, 13 Dec 2013 17:36:43 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world especially since sept. 11. |
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On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 5:32 PM, Amirouche Boubekki <amirouche.boubekki@gmail.com> wrote: > Why is bv4bv4bv4@gmail.com still not banned? Because they’re posting via Usenet. Google Groups, to be exact — if someone feels like it, go bug <groups-abuse@google.com>. > 2013/12/13 <bv4bv4bv4@gmail.com> > >> Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world especially since sept. >> 11. >> >> An important article shows that every child is born on the "fitrah" >> (natural inclination) of "Islam", the spread of Islam after September >> eleventh and that it’s necessary to make an open communication between >> Muslims & Non-Muslims for presenting a right picture about Islam . >> >> Salam Alaykum: >> >> Your question about the increase in the "reversion to Islam" is a good >> one. You have given me the excuse to do something that I have wanted to do >> for a long time. I have wanted to write on the subject of "Reverts to Islam >> in Modern Times" and the message that it carries to all of us Muslims about >> Islam TODAY. >> BACK TO Islam? >> Reverts to Islam In Modern Times >> >> "Revert" As Opposed to "Convert" >> >> I like to use the word "revert" as opposed to the word "convert" as it >> more suits the occasion of a person returning back to his natural condition >> at birth. The baby is born in true surrender, submission, obedience and >> peace with his Creator. And this is the desirable position of the Muslim, to >> be in peace and submission to the Will of Allah (God in English). Instead of >> thinking in terms of "converting" people over to Islam, it is better >> understood that they are simply returning back to their natural state at >> birth. And this is from the teachings of our beloved prophet, Muhammad, >> peace be upon him. (Muslims should always say "Peace be upon him/them" when >> referring to any of the prophets). >> >> Like A Baby >> >> Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, said: "Every child is born on the >> "fitrah" (natural inclination) of "Islam" (surrender, submission and peace >> to the Creator on His Terms). And it is their parents who raise them up to >> be Jews, Christians or fire worshippers." >> >> Dr. Ted Campbell who is the professor of religion at the seminary school >> in Maryland and I were both sharing the speakers platform last year in >> Maryland University. At the closing of a very nice interfaith dialog there >> came a strange question for both of us. Noah, the moderator said: "This last >> question is for both speakers: "Why are each of you in your religion?" >> >> Dr. Campbell took his position in front of the microphone and then looked >> around the room as he thought about the question. I will never forget his >> words. He said: "I guess I would have to say that I am a Methodist because, >> well because, my parents raised me that way. As a Methodist." >> >> He was right. >> >> That is what we know as Muslims. However, as I mentioned in my answer to >> the same question: "And then some are brought back to their original state >> as a baby." They are "reverted" to Islam by the Mercy of Allah. >> >> Actual or Factual Numbers of American Muslims >> >> Many people are claiming that twice as many, or three times or four times, >> or even ten times as many people are coming into Islam as they did prior to >> the events of September 11. Who could possibly know the numbers? We are not >> even sure how many Muslims live here in America. I have heard the numbers >> range from around 3,000,000 all the way up to 11,000,000. I'm sure that only >> Allah Knows for sure how many Muslims there are in America. >> >> Rate of "Reversion" >> >> Actually, I can't give accurate statistics before or after the September >> events. I have heard from some "experts" that Islam was the fastest growing >> religion in the world prior to the September 11 events. I have no reason to >> doubt it either. In the many Masjids around the United States and in the >> many countries that I have been fortunate enough to visit I have found >> thousands who have entered into Islam. The Anglican Church of England >> expressed concern that if something does not change in the trend of new >> Muslims in England that the Muslims will out number the Anglicans by the >> year 2010. >> >> The number one name of the birth certificates for new born boys in England >> was not John, or Michael, or William. It is "Muhammad." In Mexico, Sweden, >> Denmark and Canada I have witnessed so many coming into Islam that I cannot >> count them all. Everywhere I go I meet new Muslims. Prisons, universities >> and even in the military I have personally seen thousands who came to Islam. >> This is all before the events of September 11. >> >> More Exposure to the Message >> >> What I feel comfortable saying is that more and more people are being to >> exposed to Islam all over the world. Whether or not the picture they are >> receiving is painted correctly or not is not as important a factor as is the >> fact that at long last many people on this planet are looking at Islam as >> something very real. Therefore, when they ask about Islam some of the >> information is stimulating feelings inside of the people. Naturally we are >> going to see those who are stimulated to be against Islam. At the same time >> you have to understand that there are a number of people who will take the >> position that you cannot always believe everything in the news media. These >> are the ones whom Allah guides to inquire and learn more. >> >> Allah is the Only Guide >> >> It is only Allah who Guides the people and it is only Allah who Misguides. >> The biggest problem in the past used to be the lack of interest in Islam. >> People were not interested in talking about Islam or any religion for that >> matter, even their own. Now the problem is the lack of correct knowledge of >> Islam. There simply was not anything about Islam out there. >> >> Then the events of the 1970s with the actions of some of the Iranians when >> they hijacked airplanes and we saw on the news, men prostrating on the >> ground outside the airplanes. We in the West learned a new word; "Shi'ism". >> People said this is some strange religion (Islam). What is going on? Then >> came the 1980s and we saw acts of terrorism that occurred in Palestine and >> the words "fundamentalist" and "Muslim" became associated together. >> >> At the very beginning of the next decade we saw something take place in >> Iraq and Kuwait. Again religion is brought into the picture. Not a pretty >> picture, but a picture. Midway through the 1990s we saw big actions taking >> place everywhere in the world. The Trade Center in New York, airplanes, >> embassies, attacks and counter attacks. All along we are hearing something >> about "Islam" and "Moslems." Still not very positive to say the least. Then >> what occurred in September brought out more information, although distorted, >> about this religion of the East. >> >> President Says "Islam is Peace" >> >> Every home, every business, every place on earth became exposed to this >> religion called: "Islam." The president of the United States went on >> television at a time when everyone who had a TV set was watching to see what >> the United States Commander in Chief was going to say about the events of >> September 11, and what US was going to do. His message contained a lot of >> threats and promises about what the Americans were going to do to those who >> committed these horrific acts of terrorism. But the words that stick in my >> mind are the words that introduced Islam to a lot of people around the world >> who had never heard of Islam before in their lives. >> >> The words of President G. W. Bush when he said: "Islam is a religion of >> peace." Every single place on earth that could receive the broadcast signal >> from the TV towers or the satellites orbiting the earth got the message. And >> for those who were not so fortunate as to have a TV set, it was >> simultaneously broadcast on every radio station in the world. And for those >> who might have slept through the broadcast, it was rebroadcast over and >> over. And then for those who did not speak English of course there was >> translation. And then the written word took over where the broadcasting left >> off. There was not a newspaper in the world except that it carried something >> of the meaning of what Mr. Bush said on that occasion. It was a historical >> speech. One that will go down in the books of history as the retaliation of >> a nation against terrorism. He said it. "Islam IS A RELIGION OF PEACE." >> >> Divide Muslims >> >> Now we know that Mr. Bush is not promoting Islam by any stretch of the >> imagination. However, he still could not afford to say something derogatory >> against all the Muslims in the world by attacking Islam. That would then >> unite all the Muslims against America (at least most of them). >> >> In fact it was to the advantage of the Americans to make statements that >> would help divide the Muslims over the situation existing in Afghanistan and >> the situation that was sure to occur. By making this statement, he left the >> door open for the Muslims who did not want to see any problem between the >> materialism of the West (which they personally enjoyed or would like to >> enjoy) and the sacrificing of those who were willing to stand up against the >> tyranny and oppression of the Western society and all that comes along with >> it. >> >> So the strategy was to say things that made certain Muslims look bad while >> at the same time not exactly attacking Islam. This led up to the next >> desirable situation for shaytan (the devil): Divide the Muslims against each >> other. So, now we had "mainstream Muslims" and "fundamentalist Muslims" and >> "terrorist Islam" and "modern Islam." It worked too. The Muslims did the >> thing that the non-Muslims could never have done. The Muslims defeated >> themselves. Anytime that Muslims fight Muslims and Muslims kill Muslims, >> then Allah's Protection is lifted from them and they will loose. That is >> what happened. >> >> People Want to Know >> >> Still in the midst of all of this negative propaganda and bad press, >> non-Muslim people were curious to learn more of this "cult" of Islam, its >> people and their beliefs. Books about Islam and Muslims were disappearing >> off the shelves of the bookstores faster than they could replenish them. >> Unfortunately almost every single book was written either by a non-Muslim or >> authors from the various deviant sects of Muslims. So the people were still >> not getting the real message of the true Islam. >> >> Websites, chat rooms, email and message boards became alive with >> information (and misinformation) about Islam, Muslims, Quran, Muhammad, >> peace be upon him. Some people wanted to know the truth, others wanted to >> hide it. Discussions and arguments about what Islam is about and what >> Muslims do were very common place. This was the most exposure that these >> subjects had ever had in the world at one time. >> >> >> Open Communication Between Muslim & Non-Muslim >> >> The good news came when the various dialogs between the Muslims and >> Christians began to take place. When the non-Muslims began to enter the >> masjids and sit with the Muslims and shared together in discussions and >> shared together enjoying the food and traditions of other cultures an >> amazing thing began to happen. They opened their minds and their hearts to >> the true message of the submission and surrender and obedience to the One >> True God, Allah -- in Islam. >> >> Back to Islam >> >> Since September 11th, I have seen a huge increase in the interest of >> people wanting to know about Islam and at the same time a marked increase in >> the "dawah" (invitation) to Islam on the part of the Muslims around the >> world. This is how the people are coming to Islam. The same way people have >> come to Islam for 1,400 years. By learning the true message and being with >> real Muslims. Those who are inclined to "revert" back to the natural state >> of baby-like submission and peace with Allah, are finding their way back to >> Islam. >> >> >> Many New Muslims >> >> Islam today, is growing faster than ever. It is the Will of Allah, for >> only He Guides. The people want to know. The interest is keen. The materials >> are available in more simple terms in many languages. The Muslims are >> starting to carry the responsibility of sharing the message of the true >> "Peace With God in Islam." >> >> Islam In Every Home >> >> Somewhere in the middle of all of this is occurred to me an expression of >> our prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him. When he said what might translate >> to English as: >> >> "The Last Day will not come until Islam has entered every house on earth, >> whether it is made of animal skins or from the earth." >> >> >> http://www.islamhouse.com/185804/en/en/articles/Islam_is_the_fastest_growing_religion_in_the_world_especially_since_sept._11. >> >> http://www.islamtomorrow.com >> >> thank you >> -- >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list > > > > -- > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list > -- Chris “Kwpolska” Warrick <http://kwpolska.tk> PGP: 5EAAEA16 stop html mail | always bottom-post | only UTF-8 makes sense
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