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On Thu, May 5, 2016, at 12:04 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> On Thursday 05 May 2016 16:46, Stephen Hansen wrote:
> > > On Wed, May 4, 2016, at 11:04 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> >> Start by writing a function or a regex that will distinguish strings that
> >> match your conditions from those that don't. A regex might be faster, but
> >> here's a function version.
> >> ... snip ...
> > 
> > Yikes. I'm all for the idea that one shouldn't go to regex when Python's
> > powerful string type can answer the problem more clearly, but this seems
> > to go out of its way to do otherwise.
> > 
> > I don't even care about faster: Its overly complicated. Sometimes a
> > regular expression really is the clearest way to solve a problem.
> 
> You're probably right, but I find it easier to reason about matching in 
> Python rather than the overly terse, cryptic regular expression mini-
> language.
> 
> I haven't tested my function version, but I'm 95% sure that it is
> correct. 
> It trickiest part of it is the logic about splitting around ampersands.
> And 
> I'll cheerfully admit that it isn't easy to extend to (say) "ampersand,
> or 
> at signs". But your regex solution:
> 
> r"^[A-Z\s&]+$"
> 
> is much smaller and more compact, but *wrong*. For instance, your regex 
> wrongly accepts both "&&&&&" and "      " as valid strings, and wrongly 
> rejects "ΔΣΘΛ". Your Greek customers will be sad...

Meh. You have a pedantic definition of wrong. Given the inputs, it
produced right output. Very often that's enough. Perfect is the enemy of
good, it's said. 

There's no situation where "&&&&&" and "     " will exist in the given
dataset, and recognizing that is important. You don't have to account
for every bit of nonsense. 

If the OP needs a unicode-aware solution that redefines "A-Z" as perhaps
"\w" with an isupper call. Its still far simpler then you're suggesting.

-- 
Stephen Hansen
  m e @ i x o k a i . i o

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Whittle it on down DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-05-05 00:58 -0400
  Re: Whittle it on down Stephen Hansen <me+python@ixokai.io> - 2016-05-04 22:39 -0700
    Re: Whittle it on down DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-05-05 08:44 -0400
    Re: Whittle it on down DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-05-05 19:31 -0400
      Re: Whittle it on down Peter Otten <__peter__@web.de> - 2016-05-06 09:45 +0200
        Re: Whittle it on down DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-05-06 09:58 -0400
          Re: Whittle it on down DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-05-06 10:41 -0400
            Re: Whittle it on down Peter Otten <__peter__@web.de> - 2016-05-06 17:44 +0200
              Re: Whittle it on down DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-05-06 18:43 -0400
      Re: Whittle it on down alister <alister.ware@ntlworld.com> - 2016-05-06 10:01 +0000
  Re: Whittle it on down Jussi Piitulainen <jussi.piitulainen@helsinki.fi> - 2016-05-05 08:53 +0300
    Re: Whittle it on down DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-05-05 08:57 -0400
  Re: Whittle it on down Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2016-05-05 16:04 +1000
    Re: Whittle it on down Stephen Hansen <me+python@ixokai.io> - 2016-05-04 23:46 -0700
      Re: Whittle it on down Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2016-05-05 17:04 +1000
        Re: Whittle it on down Stephen Hansen <me+python@ixokai.io> - 2016-05-05 00:34 -0700
          Re: Whittle it on down Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2016-05-05 18:41 +1000
            Re: Whittle it on down Random832 <random832@fastmail.com> - 2016-05-05 09:13 -0400
              Re: Whittle it on down Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2016-05-06 03:13 +1000
      Re: Whittle it on down Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2016-05-05 17:36 +1000
        Re: Whittle it on down Peter Otten <__peter__@web.de> - 2016-05-05 10:17 +0200
          Re: Whittle it on down Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2016-05-06 01:39 +1000
        Re: Whittle it on down Random832 <random832@fastmail.com> - 2016-05-05 09:21 -0400
          Re: Whittle it on down Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2016-05-06 04:03 +1000
            Re: Whittle it on down Random832 <random832@fastmail.com> - 2016-05-05 14:52 -0400
            Re: Whittle it on down Stephen Hansen <me+python@ixokai.io> - 2016-05-05 12:09 -0700
        Re: Whittle it on down Stephen Hansen <me+python@ixokai.io> - 2016-05-05 06:32 -0700
          Re: Whittle it on down DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-05-05 10:36 -0400
          Re: Whittle it on down Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2016-05-06 03:43 +1000
            Re: Whittle it on down Stephen Hansen <me+python@ixokai.io> - 2016-05-05 11:55 -0700
        Re: Whittle it on down Jussi Piitulainen <jussi.piitulainen@helsinki.fi> - 2016-05-05 20:49 +0300
          Re: Whittle it on down Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2016-05-06 04:14 +1000
            Re: Whittle it on down Jussi Piitulainen <jussi.piitulainen@helsinki.fi> - 2016-05-05 21:27 +0300
              Re: Whittle it on down Random832 <random832@fastmail.com> - 2016-05-05 14:54 -0400
              Re: Whittle it on down Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2016-05-06 10:57 +1000
                Re: Whittle it on down Jussi Piitulainen <jussi.piitulainen@helsinki.fi> - 2016-05-06 07:19 +0300
    Re: Whittle it on down DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-05-05 08:31 -0400
      Re: Whittle it on down Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2016-05-06 03:54 +1000
        Re: Whittle it on down DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-05-05 17:36 -0400
      Re: Whittle it on down Stephen Hansen <me+python@ixokai.io> - 2016-05-05 11:56 -0700
        Re: Whittle it on down DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-05-05 17:45 -0400

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