Re: Limit Lines of Output

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From	Joshua Landau <joshua.landau.ws@gmail.com>
Date	2013-06-27 13:54 +0100
Subject	Re: Limit Lines of Output
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On 27 June 2013 00:57, Steven D'Aprano
<steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> wrote:
> On Wed, 26 Jun 2013 10:09:13 -0700, rusi wrote:
>
>> On Wednesday, June 26, 2013 8:54:56 PM UTC+5:30, Joshua Landau wrote:
>>> On 25 June 2013 22:48, Gene Heskett  wrote:
>>> > On Tuesday 25 June 2013 17:47:22 Joshua Landau did opine:
>>>
>>> I did not.
>>
>> I guess Joshua is saying that saying ≠ opining
>
> But it is. From WordNet:
>
> opine
>     v 1: express one's opinion openly and without fear or
>          hesitation; "John spoke up at the meeting" [syn: opine,
>          speak up, speak out, animadvert, sound off]

To give context;

On 25 June 2013 22:48, Gene Heskett <gheskett@wdtv.com> (incorrectly) wrote:
> On Tuesday 25 June 2013 17:47:22 Joshua Landau did opine:
>
> > On 25 June 2013 21:22, Bryan Britten <britten.bryan@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Ah, I always forget to mention my OS on these forums. I'm running
> > > Windows.
> >
> > Supposedly, Windows has "more"
> > [http://superuser.com/questions/426226/less-or-more-in-windows],
>
> Yes, but less is more than more.
>
> > For Linux+less; this works:
> >
> > from subprocess import Popen, PIPE
> > less = Popen("less", stdin=PIPE)
> > less.stdin.write(b"\n".join("This is line number
> > {}".format(i).encode("UTF-8") for i in range(1000)))
> > less.wait()

As you can see, my quoted text contained no *opinions*, at least of
the nuance that "opine" refers to.

> Admittedly we cannot tell what Joshua's mental state was at the time he
> responded to Bryan, he may have been absolutely terrified for all we
> know, but there's no sign of this fear, and no reason to think that he
> hesitated, given that his response came through a mere nine minutes after
> Bryan's comment.

That's taking a very analytic turn...

To clarify; I did have little hesitation but that was not the grounds
to my objection.

> Or if you prefer the Collaborative International Dictionary of English:
>
> Opine \O*pine"\, v. t. & i. [imp. & p. p. Opined; p. pr. & vb.
>    n. Opining.] [L. opinari, p. p. opinatus; akin to opinus
>    (in comp.) thinking, and perh. to E. apt: cf. F. opiner.]
>    To have an opinion; to judge; to think; to suppose. --South.
>    [1913 Webster]

As this accurately sums up, to "opine" requires one to "judge" in some
form, or to be "opinionated"; these are not things I did; I rather
just referenced someone's work without openly judging it and stated
(objectively so, you shall find) that some code worked.

>> [Or is he opining?]
>
> That's just his opinion, man.
>
> *wink*


--

(I wasn't expecting this to spawn so much discourse.)

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Limit Lines of Output Bryan Britten <britten.bryan@gmail.com> - 2013-06-25 13:09 -0700
  Re: Limit Lines of Output Joel Goldstick <joel.goldstick@gmail.com> - 2013-06-25 16:18 -0400
    Re: Limit Lines of Output Bryan Britten <britten.bryan@gmail.com> - 2013-06-25 13:22 -0700
      Re: Limit Lines of Output Joshua Landau <joshua.landau.ws@gmail.com> - 2013-06-25 21:31 +0100
      Re: Limit Lines of Output Joel Goldstick <joel.goldstick@gmail.com> - 2013-06-25 16:33 -0400
        Re: Limit Lines of Output Bryan Britten <britten.bryan@gmail.com> - 2013-06-25 13:37 -0700
          Re: Limit Lines of Output Dave Angel <davea@davea.name> - 2013-06-25 22:27 -0400
      Re: Limit Lines of Output Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2013-06-25 14:39 -0600
        Re: Limit Lines of Output Alister <alister.ware@ntlworld.com> - 2013-06-26 11:41 +0000
      Re: Limit Lines of Output Gene Heskett <gheskett@wdtv.com> - 2013-06-25 17:48 -0400
      Re: Limit Lines of Output Joshua Landau <joshua.landau.ws@gmail.com> - 2013-06-26 16:24 +0100
        Re: Limit Lines of Output Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-06-26 16:46 +0000
          Re: Limit Lines of Output Joshua Landau <joshua.landau.ws@gmail.com> - 2013-06-26 23:07 +0100
        Re: Limit Lines of Output rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2013-06-26 10:09 -0700
          Re: Limit Lines of Output Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-06-26 23:57 +0000
            Re: Limit Lines of Output Joshua Landau <joshua.landau.ws@gmail.com> - 2013-06-27 13:54 +0100
      Re: Limit Lines of Output Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-06-27 01:58 +1000

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