Re: Conditionals And Control Flows

From	Stephen Hansen <me+python@ixokai.io>
Newsgroups	comp.lang.python
Subject	Re: Conditionals And Control Flows
Date	2016-05-04 11:54 -0700
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On Wed, May 4, 2016, at 07:41 AM, Cai Gengyang wrote:
> I am trying to understand the boolean operator "and" in Python. It is
> supposed to return "True" when the expression on both sides of "and" are
> true 

The thing is, its kinda dubious to think of 'and' as a 'boolean
operator', because once you go down that road, some people start wanting
it to be a *pure* boolean operator. Something that always returns True
or False. Instead, 'and' and 'or' return something that is true, or
something that is false. Notice the lower case. (I know the docs call
them Boolean Operations, but I still think saying 'boolean' is
unhelpful)

Python defines false things as False, None, 0 (of any numeric type), an
empty container (lists, tuples, mappings, something else that defines
__len__ and it returns 0), and instances of classes that define
__nonzero__ that return 0 or False.

Everything else is a true thing.

If you see "x and y", the rule is: if x is a false thing, it'll return
something false. As it happens, it has x handy, and since its decided x
is false, it'll return that. Therefore, "x and y" is false. If x is
true, though, it'll return y. In this case, "x and y" will be a true
thing if y is a true thing, and a false thing if y is a false thing.

As you can see, all of this logic happens without ever using True or
False. 

-- 
Stephen Hansen
  m e @ i x o k a i . i o

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Conditionals And Control Flows Cai Gengyang <gengyangcai@gmail.com> - 2016-05-04 07:41 -0700
  Re: Conditionals And Control Flows Bob Gailer <bgailer@gmail.com> - 2016-05-04 10:54 -0400
  Re: Conditionals And Control Flows Michael Selik <michael.selik@gmail.com> - 2016-05-04 14:56 +0000
  Re: Conditionals And Control Flows Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2016-05-05 00:58 +1000
  Re: Conditionals And Control Flows Jussi Piitulainen <jussi.piitulainen@helsinki.fi> - 2016-05-04 18:10 +0300
    Re: Conditionals And Control Flows Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2016-05-04 16:21 +0100
    Re: Conditionals And Control Flows Cai Gengyang <gengyangcai@gmail.com> - 2016-05-04 08:23 -0700
      Re: Conditionals And Control Flows Jussi Piitulainen <jussi.piitulainen@helsinki.fi> - 2016-05-04 19:41 +0300
  Re: Conditionals And Control Flows Stephen Hansen <me+python@ixokai.io> - 2016-05-04 11:54 -0700

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