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| Date | Fri, 24 Jun 2011 16:08:35 -0500 |
| From | Tycho Andersen <tycho@tycho.ws> |
| To | Ned Deily <nad@acm.org> |
| Subject | Re: Interpreting Left to right? |
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On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 01:24:24PM -0700, Ned Deily wrote:
> In article <20110624200618.GK6075@point.cs.wisc.edu>,
> Tycho Andersen <tycho@tycho.ws> wrote:
> > Yes, I understand that, but I guess I don't understand *why* things
> > are done that way. What is the evaluation order principle at work
> > here? I would have expected:
> >
> > tmp = {}
> > x['huh'] = tmp # NameEror!
> >
> > That is, the right hand sides of assignments are evaluated before the
> > left hand sides. That is (somehow?) not the case here.
>
> http://docs.python.org/py3k/reference/simple_stmts.html#assignment-statements
Perhaps I'm thick, but (the first thing I did was read the docs and) I
still don't get it. From the docs:
"An assignment statement evaluates the expression list (remember that
this can be a single expression or a comma-separated list, the latter
yielding a tuple) and assigns the single resulting object to each of
the target lists, from left to right."
For a single target, it evaluates the RHS and assigns the result to
the LHS. Thus
x = x['foo'] = {}
first evaluates
x['foo'] = {}
which should raise a NameError, since x doesn't exist yet. Where am I
going wrong?
Thanks,
\t
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Re: Interpreting Left to right? Tycho Andersen <tycho@tycho.ws> - 2011-06-24 16:08 -0500 Re: Interpreting Left to right? Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2011-06-25 10:32 +1000 Re: Interpreting Left to right? Chris Torek <nospam@torek.net> - 2011-06-25 18:44 +0000
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