Re: Python NBSP DWIM

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Date	Thu, 11 Jun 2015 13:37:59 +1000
Subject	Re: Python NBSP DWIM
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On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 1:27 PM, Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> wrote:
> On Thu, 11 Jun 2015 01:05 pm, Chris Angelico wrote:
> [...]
>>> Why do the subtitles contain ZWNBSP in the first place? Surely they're
>>> not English subtitles?
>>
>> No, they're not :) The character comes up in the Cantonese and
>> Japanese subs for Once Upon A December.
>>
>> http://youtu.be/CEpcUeWP0bg
>> http://youtu.be/WFZAaHrHens
>>
>> Possibly some others in the series as well. It may well be a fault in
>> the subtitles, but most programs I've seen don't show U+FEFF as a big
>> fat box.
>
> I think that for backwards compatibility, applications (or fonts) are
> permitted to treat U+FEFF as a zero-width invisible character, so perhaps
> you can raise a feature request with VLC.

Yeah. Well, like I said - learn something new every day. I didn't know
it wasn't a bug. (Though it'd still be a font issue, not a VLC one.
With other fonts, it comes up looking different, in some cases
invisible. Unfortunately, the fonts that look good aren't the fonts
that have glyphs for all characters, so I need to figure out why font
substitution isn't working right. But that's a separate issue.)

ChrisA

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Re: Python NBSP DWIM Skip Montanaro <skip.montanaro@gmail.com> - 2015-06-10 09:28 -0500
  Re: Python NBSP DWIM Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2015-06-11 03:11 +1000
    Re: Python NBSP DWIM random832@fastmail.us - 2015-06-10 21:02 -0400
    Re: Python NBSP DWIM Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2015-06-11 11:09 +1000
    Re: Python NBSP DWIM Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2015-06-11 12:26 +1000
      Re: Python NBSP DWIM Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2015-06-11 13:05 +1000
        Re: Python NBSP DWIM Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2015-06-11 13:27 +1000
          Re: Python NBSP DWIM Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2015-06-11 13:37 +1000
      Re: Python NBSP DWIM random832@fastmail.us - 2015-06-10 23:18 -0400
      Re: Python NBSP DWIM Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2015-06-11 13:28 +1000

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