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Re: Making a pass form cgi => webpy framework

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On 06/23/2013 07:44 PM, Νίκος wrote:
> Why use mako's approach which requires 2 files(an html template and the 
> actual python script rendering the data) when i can have simple print 
> statements inside 1 files(my files.py script) ?
> After all its only one html table i wish to display.

Sooner or later your needs grow to the point where your single python
CGI file is mixing so much html and python code that it becomes unwieldy.

> And if we wanted to to compare an html template method to a web 
> framework solution?

A web framework gives you database abstractions so you can easily target
most SQL servers without changing code (MySQL, MS SQL, PostgreSQL,
Oracle, etc), and they also provide frameworks for doing authentication
and authorization.  Authorization in particular becomes unwieldy quickly
if you have to do it all in CGI.  With a framework it's relatively easy
to decorate a view with a wrapper that can only allow the view to be
displayed if a web client has logged in with a particular set of
permissions (stored in your user database of coures).

> What are the benefits of one over the other?

If you need to do user logins, a framework is going to become rather
essential, in my opinion.  At least if you need to support fine-grained
permissions, which is what most enterprise web apps require (at least
the ones I worked on).

> I know you dont use the latter but this questios is for averybody that does.

Personally I feel that a templating engine is essential for any web
development, CGI or not.  Mixing html and code leads to an
unmaintainable mess.

A framework is not essential, but often desired.  If you don't use a
framework, eventually you'll find yourself creating your own framework
in essence, though often not nearly as robustly or as flexibly.

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Making a pass form cgi => webpy framework Νίκος <nikos@superhost.gr> - 2013-06-23 16:01 +0300
  Re: Making a pass form cgi => webpy framework rurpy@yahoo.com - 2013-06-23 07:57 -0700
    Re: Making a pass form cgi => webpy framework Νίκος <nikos@superhost.gr> - 2013-06-23 18:15 +0300
      Re: Making a pass form cgi => webpy framework rurpy@yahoo.com - 2013-06-23 15:29 -0700
        Re: Making a pass form cgi => webpy framework Νίκος <nikos@superhost.gr> - 2013-06-24 04:44 +0300
          Re: Making a pass form cgi => webpy framework Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> - 2013-06-23 22:37 -0600
            Re: Making a pass form cgi => webpy framework rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2013-06-23 21:49 -0700
            Re: Making a pass form cgi => webpy framework Νίκος <nikos@superhost.gr> - 2013-06-24 10:32 +0300
              Re: Making a pass form cgi => webpy framework rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2013-06-24 08:51 -0700
          Re: Making a pass form cgi => webpy framework rurpy@yahoo.com - 2013-06-25 11:00 -0700
            Re: Making a pass form cgi => webpy framework Joel Goldstick <joel.goldstick@gmail.com> - 2013-06-25 14:53 -0400
              Re: Making a pass form cgi => webpy framework Νίκος <nikos@superhost.gr> - 2013-06-26 08:31 +0300
            Re: Making a pass form cgi => webpy framework Νίκος <nikos@superhost.gr> - 2013-06-27 16:32 +0300
              Re: Making a pass form cgi => webpy framework Cameron Simpson <cs@zip.com.au> - 2013-06-28 09:08 +1000
                Re: Making a pass form cgi => webpy framework Νίκος <nikos@superhost.gr> - 2013-06-28 06:38 +0300
                Re: Making a pass form cgi => webpy framework Robert Kern <robert.kern@gmail.com> - 2013-06-28 10:35 +0100
                Re: Making a pass form cgi => webpy framework Νίκος <nikos@superhost.gr> - 2013-06-28 13:15 +0300
                Re: Making a pass form cgi => webpy framework Robert Kern <robert.kern@gmail.com> - 2013-06-28 11:30 +0100
                Re: Making a pass form cgi => webpy framework rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2013-06-28 07:28 -0700

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