Re: When I need classes?

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On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 11:53 AM, Bernardo Sulzbach
<mafagafogigante@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 9:45 PM, Travis Griggs <travisgriggs@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Jan 10, 2016, at 9:48 AM, Bernardo Sulzbach <mafagafogigante@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Essentially, classes (as modules) are used mainly for organizational purposes.
>>>
>>> Although you can solve any problem you would solve using classes
>>> without classes, solutions to some big problems may be cheaper and
>>> more feasible using classes.
>>
>> I think, this is often why, for a simple script, OO just kind of gets in the way. You have a straightforward procedure that you just want to do. The state (data) is not rich enough to make making it the focal point of your program.
>
> Your answer is quite good. I am not a purist myself (when it comes to
> Java and C++, I am never going to instantiate a Math class to get a
> logarithm function), but I understand the value of OO from experience.
> As I mentioned those "tuples and dictionaries" to pass data around, I
> would like to add that when a single script has two kinds of tuples or
> dictionaries, you may be better of using two different classes, as
> having "dedicated" types simplifies project organization and
> enhances readability.
>

Yeah. One thing I often recommend, especially to students, is to start
with the very simplest and most naive code they can knock together,
and then look at making it tidier afterwards. Classes, decorators, the
unittest setUp/tearDown methods, and even functions themselves, are
all just ways of improving code that could be written some other way.
They're not rigid structures that you HAVE to comply with or your code
is *just* *not* *good* *enough*. So start simplistic, and then look
into it like this: "Hey, see how you're doing this five times? There
HAS to be a better way!" (With acknowledgement to Raymond Hettinger.)

ChrisA

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When I need classes? Arshpreet Singh <arsh840@gmail.com> - 2016-01-09 23:29 -0800
  Re: When I need classes? Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> - 2016-01-10 08:02 -0700
    Re: When I need classes? Arshpreet Singh <arsh840@gmail.com> - 2016-01-10 22:45 -0800
      Re: When I need classes? Cameron Simpson <cs@zip.com.au> - 2016-01-11 18:27 +1100
  Re: When I need classes? Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2016-01-11 02:39 +1100
    Re: When I need classes? Bernardo Sulzbach <mafagafogigante@gmail.com> - 2016-01-10 15:48 -0200
      Re: When I need classes? Arshpreet Singh <arsh840@gmail.com> - 2016-01-10 22:24 -0800
    Re: When I need classes? Arshpreet Singh <arsh840@gmail.com> - 2016-01-10 22:28 -0800
    Re: When I need classes? Travis Griggs <travisgriggs@gmail.com> - 2016-01-11 15:45 -0800
      Re: When I need classes? Mike S <mscir@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-13 22:27 -0800
    Re: When I need classes? Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> - 2016-01-11 16:59 -0700
    Re: When I need classes? Bernardo Sulzbach <mafagafogigante@gmail.com> - 2016-01-11 22:53 -0200
    Re: When I need classes? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2016-01-12 12:28 +1100
      Re: When I need classes? Gregory Ewing <greg.ewing@canterbury.ac.nz> - 2016-01-13 10:01 +1300
        Re: When I need classes? Bernardo Sulzbach <mafagafogigante@gmail.com> - 2016-01-12 19:08 -0200
    Re: When I need classes? Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2016-01-12 17:18 -0700
      Re: When I need classes? Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2016-01-13 12:33 +1100
  Re: When I need classes? Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2016-01-12 19:36 -0800
    Re: When I need classes? Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2016-01-13 16:27 +1100
      Re: When I need classes? Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2016-01-12 22:31 -0800
        Re: When I need classes? Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2016-01-13 08:33 -0800
      Re: When I need classes? Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2016-01-14 10:00 -0800

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