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Re: Overriding a global

Date 2011-12-12 16:43 -0500
From Dave Angel <d@davea.name>
Subject Re: Overriding a global
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On 12/12/2011 04:28 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> On Mon, 12 Dec 2011 12:13:33 +0100, Jean-Michel Pichavant wrote:
>
>> Using the same name for 2 different objects is a bad idea in general.
> We have namespaces precisely so you don't need to care about making names
> globally unique.
>
>
True, but in this code, the function is trying to both use the global 
value, but also a local that deliberately has the same name, but a 
different meaning and "value".  The CPython compiler doesn't make this 
easy, and I think the globals() technique is unnecessarily obscure, as 
is the default-argument trick.

If a function knows of the presence of a global, it's not asking too 
much for it to not re-use the same name in local scope.

Since it seems to be in vogue to propose language changes, how about a 
new place for 'as' ?
def myfunc():
      global logger as g_logger
      logger = g_logger.debug('stuff').getChild('function')

-- 

DaveA

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Overriding a global Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2011-12-10 15:47 -0500
  Re: Overriding a global MRAB <python@mrabarnett.plus.com> - 2011-12-10 21:07 +0000
    Re: Overriding a global Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2011-12-10 16:10 -0500
      Re: Overriding a global Jean-Michel Pichavant <jeanmichel@sequans.com> - 2011-12-12 12:13 +0100
        Re: Overriding a global Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2011-12-12 21:28 +0000
          Re: Overriding a global Dave Angel <d@davea.name> - 2011-12-12 16:43 -0500
            Re: Overriding a global Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2011-12-13 09:27 +1100
              Re: Overriding a global Dave Angel <d@davea.name> - 2011-12-12 20:46 -0500
              Re: Overriding a global Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2011-12-13 01:48 +0000
              Re: Overriding a global Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2011-12-12 22:50 -0700
              Re: Overriding a global Joshua Landau <joshua.landau.ws@gmail.com> - 2011-12-13 08:34 +0000
              Re: Overriding a global Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2011-12-13 12:34 -0700
              Re: Overriding a global Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2011-12-13 12:54 -0700
          Re: Overriding a global Jean-Michel Pichavant <jeanmichel@sequans.com> - 2011-12-13 10:54 +0100
            Re: Overriding a global Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2011-12-13 11:15 +0000
              Re: Overriding a global Jean-Michel Pichavant <jeanmichel@sequans.com> - 2011-12-13 14:30 +0100
              Re: Overriding a global Jean-Michel Pichavant <jeanmichel@sequans.com> - 2011-12-14 11:14 +0100
              Re: Overriding a global Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2011-12-14 21:32 +1100
              Re: Overriding a global Jean-Michel Pichavant <jeanmichel@sequans.com> - 2011-12-14 13:05 +0100
                Re: Overriding a global Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2011-12-14 12:53 +0000
                Re: Overriding a global Jean-Michel Pichavant <jeanmichel@sequans.com> - 2011-12-14 14:35 +0100
              Re: Overriding a global Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2011-12-14 23:21 +1100
              Re: Overriding a global Jean-Michel Pichavant <jeanmichel@sequans.com> - 2011-12-14 18:06 +0100
  Re: Overriding a global Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2011-12-10 19:14 -0500
  Re: Overriding a global Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2011-12-10 19:19 -0500
  Re: Overriding a global Peter Otten <__peter__@web.de> - 2011-12-11 09:14 +0100
  Re: Overriding a global Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2011-12-13 10:15 +0100

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