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Re: Not x.islower() has different output than x.isupper() in list output...

From Grant Edwards <grant.b.edwards@gmail.com>
Newsgroups comp.lang.python
Subject Re: Not x.islower() has different output than x.isupper() in list output...
Date 2016-05-03 15:42 +0000
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On 2016-05-03, Jussi Piitulainen <jussi.piitulainen@helsinki.fi> wrote:

>> Does that mean:
>>
>> lower(Å) != å ?
>>
>> and
>>
>> upper(å) != Å ?
>
> It means "\N{ANGSTROM SIGN}" != "Å", yet both lower to "å", which then
> uppers back to "Å" (U+00c5).
>
> The Ångström sign (U+212b) looks like this: Å. Indistinguishable from Å
> in the font that I'm seeing - for all I know, it's the same glyph.

Interesting. FWIW, Å and Å definitely look different with the terminal
and font I'm using (urxvt with -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal-*-18-120-*-*-*-90-iso10646-*)

Expecting upper/lower operations to be 100% invertible is probably a
ASCII-centric mindset that will falls over as soon as you start
dealing with non-ASCII encodings.

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Re: Not x.islower() has different output than x.isupper() in list output... Christopher Reimer <christopher_reimer@icloud.com> - 2016-04-29 18:55 -0700
  Re: Not x.islower() has different output than x.isupper() in list   output... Gregory Ewing <greg.ewing@canterbury.ac.nz> - 2016-04-30 17:47 +1200
  Re: Not x.islower() has different output than x.isupper() in list output... pavlovevidence@gmail.com - 2016-05-03 03:00 -0700
    Re: Not x.islower() has different output than x.isupper() in list output... Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2016-05-03 20:25 +1000
      Re: Not x.islower() has different output than x.isupper() in list output... Jussi Piitulainen <jussi.piitulainen@helsinki.fi> - 2016-05-03 14:25 +0300
        Re: Not x.islower() has different output than x.isupper() in list output... Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2016-05-03 22:00 +1000
          Re: Not x.islower() has different output than x.isupper() in list output... DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-05-03 09:01 -0400
            Re: Not x.islower() has different output than x.isupper() in list output... Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2016-05-03 23:13 +1000
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                Re: Not x.islower() has different output than x.isupper() in list output... Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2016-05-03 23:23 +1000
                Re: Not x.islower() has different output than x.isupper() in list output... Jussi Piitulainen <jussi.piitulainen@helsinki.fi> - 2016-05-03 17:49 +0300
                Re: Not x.islower() has different output than x.isupper() in list output... DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-05-03 11:12 -0400
                Re: Not x.islower() has different output than x.isupper() in list output... Jussi Piitulainen <jussi.piitulainen@helsinki.fi> - 2016-05-03 18:27 +0300
                Re: Not x.islower() has different output than x.isupper() in list output... Grant Edwards <grant.b.edwards@gmail.com> - 2016-05-03 15:42 +0000
                Re: Not x.islower() has different output than x.isupper() in list output... Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2016-05-03 12:37 -0400
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