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Re: PyWart: NameError trackbacks are superfluous

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Date Sat, 16 Mar 2013 23:29:52 +0000
Subject Re: PyWart: NameError trackbacks are superfluous
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On 16 March 2013 22:39, Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Saturday, March 16, 2013 4:19:34 PM UTC-5, Oscar Benjamin wrote:
>
>> The traceback shows the arguments passed to the broken
>> function that caused the NameError to be generated.
>> Different arguments would not have generated the
>> NameError. This information can be useful if the logic of
>> the function in question is complicated. It also hints at
>> why you were calling the function and what your code is
>> trying to do.
>
> If you want to observe your code "in action" there are much better ways than eyeball-parsing lines and lines of trackbacks. The code you posted is nonsense, maybe you can provide a better example that will convince me, but that one failed miserably.

I wasn't looking to convince *you*, just to set the record straight
that this behaviour is sometimes useful. In any case, even when the
traceback information is not helpful, printing it is really not a
problem and hardly a "wart".


Oscar

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PyWart: NameError trackbacks are superfluous Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2013-03-16 11:27 -0700
  Re: PyWart: NameError trackbacks are superfluous Oscar Benjamin <oscar.j.benjamin@gmail.com> - 2013-03-16 21:19 +0000
    Re: PyWart: NameError trackbacks are superfluous Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2013-03-16 15:39 -0700
      Re: PyWart: NameError trackbacks are superfluous Oscar Benjamin <oscar.j.benjamin@gmail.com> - 2013-03-16 23:29 +0000
        Re: PyWart: NameError trackbacks are superfluous Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2013-03-16 16:50 -0700
          Re: PyWart: NameError trackbacks are superfluous Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-03-17 11:00 +1100
      Re: PyWart: NameError trackbacks are superfluous Tim Chase <python.list@tim.thechases.com> - 2013-03-16 18:36 -0500
      Re: PyWart: NameError trackbacks are superfluous Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-03-17 10:48 +1100
    Re: PyWart: NameError trackbacks are superfluous Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-03-16 23:48 +0000
      Re: PyWart: NameError trackbacks are superfluous Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-03-17 10:59 +1100
      Re: PyWart: NameError trackbacks are superfluous Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2013-03-16 17:11 -0700
        Re: PyWart: NameError trackbacks are superfluous Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> - 2013-03-16 19:58 -0600
          Re: PyWart: NameError trackbacks are superfluous Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-03-17 03:14 +0000
            Re: PyWart: NameError trackbacks are superfluous Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-03-17 14:19 +1100
            Re: PyWart: NameError trackbacks are superfluous Benjamin Kaplan <benjamin.kaplan@case.edu> - 2013-03-16 21:13 -0700
  Re: PyWart: NameError trackbacks are superfluous Jason Swails <jason.swails@gmail.com> - 2013-03-17 17:22 -0400

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