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Re: PyWart: NameError trackbacks are superfluous

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On 16 March 2013 18:27, Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Sometimes many levels of trace messages can be helpful when detecting bugs, however, in the case of NameErrors,  these "nuggets" ejected from deep within the bowls of the Python interpreter are nothing more than steaming piles of incomprehensible crap!
>
> We don't need multiple layers of traces for NameErrors. Python does not have *real* global variables; and thank Guido for that! All we need to know is which module the error occurred in AND which line of that module contains the offensive lookup of a name that does not exist.
[SNIP]

NameErrors can occur conditionally depending on e.g. the arguments to
a function. Consider the following script:

  # tmp.py
  def broken(x):
      if x > 2:
          print(x)
      else:
          print(undefined_name)

  broken(1)

When run it gives a NameError with a traceback:

$ python tmp.py
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "tmp3.py", line 8, in <module>
    broken(1)
  File "tmp3.py", line 6, in broken
    print(undefined_name)
NameError: global name 'undefined_name' is not defined

The traceback shows the arguments passed to the broken function that
caused the NameError to be generated. Different arguments would not
have generated the NameError. This information can be useful if the
logic of the function in question is complicated. It also hints at why
you were calling the function and what your code is trying to do.


Oscar

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PyWart: NameError trackbacks are superfluous Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2013-03-16 11:27 -0700
  Re: PyWart: NameError trackbacks are superfluous Oscar Benjamin <oscar.j.benjamin@gmail.com> - 2013-03-16 21:19 +0000
    Re: PyWart: NameError trackbacks are superfluous Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2013-03-16 15:39 -0700
      Re: PyWart: NameError trackbacks are superfluous Oscar Benjamin <oscar.j.benjamin@gmail.com> - 2013-03-16 23:29 +0000
        Re: PyWart: NameError trackbacks are superfluous Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2013-03-16 16:50 -0700
          Re: PyWart: NameError trackbacks are superfluous Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-03-17 11:00 +1100
      Re: PyWart: NameError trackbacks are superfluous Tim Chase <python.list@tim.thechases.com> - 2013-03-16 18:36 -0500
      Re: PyWart: NameError trackbacks are superfluous Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-03-17 10:48 +1100
    Re: PyWart: NameError trackbacks are superfluous Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-03-16 23:48 +0000
      Re: PyWart: NameError trackbacks are superfluous Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-03-17 10:59 +1100
      Re: PyWart: NameError trackbacks are superfluous Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2013-03-16 17:11 -0700
        Re: PyWart: NameError trackbacks are superfluous Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> - 2013-03-16 19:58 -0600
          Re: PyWart: NameError trackbacks are superfluous Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-03-17 03:14 +0000
            Re: PyWart: NameError trackbacks are superfluous Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-03-17 14:19 +1100
            Re: PyWart: NameError trackbacks are superfluous Benjamin Kaplan <benjamin.kaplan@case.edu> - 2013-03-16 21:13 -0700
  Re: PyWart: NameError trackbacks are superfluous Jason Swails <jason.swails@gmail.com> - 2013-03-17 17:22 -0400

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