Re: Eval of expr with 'or' and 'and' within

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Date	2013-06-15 12:21 +1000
Subject	Re: Eval of expr with 'or' and 'and' within
From	Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com>
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On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 12:03 PM, Cameron Simpson <cs@zip.com.au> wrote:
> On 15Jun2013 01:34, Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> wrote:
> | Everyone is aware that there is more than one NAN, right?
>
> I was not. Interesting.
>
> | If my
> | calculations are correct, there are 9007199254740992 distinct float NANs
> | in Python (although there is no direct way of distinguishing them).
>
> Wouldn't id() do it? At least in terms of telling them apart?
> I gather they're not inspectable in Python?

You could recognize one float object as distinct from another, but
that's true of all floats:

>>> float("1.0") is float("1.0")
False

All NaNs are different in terms of the == operator, so conceptually
there are an infinite number of unique NaNs. The fact that they're
stored in memory using a certain number of bits means that there must
be a finite number of possible representations, but that's really an
implementation detail. I suppose you could figure out the
representation differences by fiddling with ctypes (in C I'd just use
a union), but that's really all.

ChrisA

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Eval of expr with 'or' and 'and' within Nick the Gr33k <support@superhost.gr> - 2013-06-14 12:50 +0300
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      Re: Eval of expr with 'or' and 'and' within Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-06-15 03:56 +1000
        Re: Eval of expr with 'or' and 'and' within Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2013-06-14 19:33 +0000
          Re: Eval of expr with 'or' and 'and' within Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-06-15 09:56 +1000
        Re: Eval of expr with 'or' and 'and' within Nobody <nobody@nowhere.com> - 2013-06-15 00:09 +0100
          Re: Eval of expr with 'or' and 'and' within Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-06-15 01:34 +0000
            Re: Eval of expr with 'or' and 'and' within Cameron Simpson <cs@zip.com.au> - 2013-06-15 12:03 +1000
              NANs [was Re: Eval of expr with 'or' and 'and' within] Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-06-15 04:22 +0000
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      Re: Eval of expr with 'or' and 'and' within Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2013-06-14 19:36 +0000
  Re: Eval of expr with 'or' and 'and' within Cameron Simpson <cs@zip.com.au> - 2013-06-15 10:14 +1000
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