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Re: '_[1]' in .co_names using builtin compile() in Python 2.6

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On 11/27/13 3:44 PM, Chris Kaynor wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 12:09 PM, Ned Batchelder <ned@nedbatchelder.com
> <mailto:ned@nedbatchelder.com>> wrote:
>
>         * Is there perhaps a better way to achieve what I'm trying to do?
>
>         What I'm really after, is to check that python expressions
>         embedded in text files are:
>         - well behaved (no syntax errors etc)
>         - don't accidentally access anything it shouldn't
>         - I serve them with the values they need on execution
>
>
>     I hope you aren't trying to prevent malice this way: you cannot
>     examine a piece of Python code to prove that it's safe to execute.
>       For an extreme example, see: Eval Really Is Dangerous:
>     http://nedbatchelder.com/blog/__201206/eval_really_is___dangerous.html
>     <http://nedbatchelder.com/blog/201206/eval_really_is_dangerous.html>
>
>     In your environment it looks like you have a whitelist of
>     identifiers, so you're probably ok.
>
>
> I just tested the crash example from that link in Python 2.7.5 win64 and
> the co_names from the compiled code is empty. Therefore, a simple
> whitelist would not catch that problematic code (and likely any other
> global access done correctly). Even a simple test of making sure that at
> least one (or any number of) valid identifier exists would be
> insufficent, as you can merely tack on a ",a" to add "a" to the
> co_names, and thus for any other variable.

Ah, right you are! I neglected to go back and examine the dangerous 
code.  So eval really is dangerous!

--Ned.

>
> Basically, even with a pure whitelist, there is likely no possible way
> to make eval/exec safe, unless you also eliminate the ability to make
> literals.
>
> Chris
>
>

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'_[1]' in .co_names using builtin compile() in Python 2.6 "magnus.lycka@gmail.com" <magnus.lycka@gmail.com> - 2013-11-27 11:40 -0800
  Re: '_[1]' in .co_names using builtin compile() in Python 2.6 Ned Batchelder <ned@nedbatchelder.com> - 2013-11-27 15:09 -0500
    Re: '_[1]' in .co_names using builtin compile() in Python 2.6 "magnus.lycka@gmail.com" <magnus.lycka@gmail.com> - 2013-11-28 03:17 -0800
  Re: '_[1]' in .co_names using builtin compile() in Python 2.6 Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2013-11-27 13:23 -0700
  Re: '_[1]' in .co_names using builtin compile() in Python 2.6 Chris Kaynor <ckaynor@zindagigames.com> - 2013-11-27 12:44 -0800
  Re: '_[1]' in .co_names using builtin compile() in Python 2.6 Ned Batchelder <ned@nedbatchelder.com> - 2013-11-27 16:26 -0500
  Re: '_[1]' in .co_names using builtin compile() in Python 2.6 Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-11-27 22:08 +0000

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