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Re: enhancement request: make py3 read/write py2 pickle format

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Date Wed, 10 Jun 2015 09:06:27 +1000
Subject Re: enhancement request: make py3 read/write py2 pickle format
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On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 6:07 AM, Devin Jeanpierre
<jeanpierreda@gmail.com> wrote:
> There's a lot of subtle issues with pickle compatibility. e.g.
> old-style vs new-style classes. It's kinda hard and it's better to
> give up. I definitely agree it's better to use something else instead.
> For example, we switched to using protocol buffers, which have much
> better compatibility properties and are a bit more testable to boot
> (since text format protobufs are always output in a canonical (sorted)
> form.)

Or use JSON, if your data fits within that structure. It's easy to
read and write, it's human-readable, and it's safe (no chance of
arbitrary code execution). Forcing yourself to use a format that can
basically be processed by ast.literal_eval() is a good discipline -
means you don't accidentally save/load too much.

ChrisA

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Re: enhancement request: make py3 read/write py2 pickle format Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2015-06-10 09:06 +1000
  Re: enhancement request: make py3 read/write py2 pickle format Irmen de Jong <irmen.NOSPAM@xs4all.nl> - 2015-06-10 02:17 +0200
    Re: enhancement request: make py3 read/write py2 pickle format Devin Jeanpierre <jeanpierreda@gmail.com> - 2015-06-09 17:47 -0700
      Re: enhancement request: make py3 read/write py2 pickle format Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2015-06-10 13:52 +1000
        Re: enhancement request: make py3 read/write py2 pickle format random832@fastmail.us - 2015-06-09 23:57 -0400
          Re: enhancement request: make py3 read/write py2 pickle format Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2015-06-10 15:43 +1000
        Re: enhancement request: make py3 read/write py2 pickle format Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2015-06-10 14:00 +1000
        Re: enhancement request: make py3 read/write py2 pickle format Devin Jeanpierre <jeanpierreda@gmail.com> - 2015-06-09 21:48 -0700
          Re: enhancement request: make py3 read/write py2 pickle format Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2015-06-10 19:36 +1000
            Re: enhancement request: make py3 read/write py2 pickle format Irmen de Jong <irmen.NOSPAM@xs4all.nl> - 2015-06-10 19:34 +0200
            Re: enhancement request: make py3 read/write py2 pickle format Devin Jeanpierre <jeanpierreda@gmail.com> - 2015-06-10 15:10 -0700
              Re: enhancement request: make py3 read/write py2 pickle format Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2015-06-11 13:21 +1000
                Re: enhancement request: make py3 read/write py2 pickle format Devin Jeanpierre <jeanpierreda@gmail.com> - 2015-06-10 22:39 -0700
                Re: enhancement request: make py3 read/write py2 pickle format Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2015-06-11 19:20 +1000
            Re: enhancement request: make py3 read/write py2 pickle format Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2015-06-10 19:25 -0400
            Re: enhancement request: make py3 read/write py2 pickle format Devin Jeanpierre <jeanpierreda@gmail.com> - 2015-06-10 16:39 -0700
            Re: enhancement request: make py3 read/write py2 pickle format Devin Jeanpierre <jeanpierreda@gmail.com> - 2015-06-10 16:48 -0700
            Re: enhancement request: make py3 read/write py2 pickle format Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2015-06-10 19:46 -0400
            Re: enhancement request: make py3 read/write py2 pickle format Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2015-06-11 09:58 +1000
            Re: enhancement request: make py3 read/write py2 pickle format Devin Jeanpierre <jeanpierreda@gmail.com> - 2015-06-10 17:02 -0700
              Re: enhancement request: make py3 read/write py2 pickle format Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2015-06-11 07:08 +0300
            Re: enhancement request: make py3 read/write py2 pickle format Serhiy Storchaka <storchaka@gmail.com> - 2015-06-11 14:11 +0300
    Re: enhancement request: make py3 read/write py2 pickle format Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2015-06-10 11:03 +1000

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