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Re: Organisation of python classes and their methods

From Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk>
Subject Re: Organisation of python classes and their methods
Date 2012-11-02 10:48 +0000
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On 02/11/2012 08:45, Martin Hewitson wrote:
>
> On 2, Nov, 2012, at 09:40 AM, Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> On 02/11/2012 08:08, Martin Hewitson wrote:
>>>
>>> Even if one takes reasonable numbers: 20 methods, each method has 20 lines of documentation, then we immediately have 400 lines in the file before writing a line of code. It would seem much more natural to me to have these methods in their own file, grouped nicely in sub-directories. But it seems this is not the python way. Sigh.
>>>
>>> Thanks for your thoughts,
>>>
>>> Martin
>>>
>>
>> 20 lines of documentation per method?  As far as I'm concerned that's not a smell, that's a stink.
>
> Wow, I don't think I've ever been criticised before for writing too much documentation :)
>
> I guess we have different end users. This is not a set of classes for other developers to use: it's a set of classes which creates a data analysis environment for scientists to use. They are not programmers, and expect the algorithms to be documented in detail.
>
> Martin
>

You've completely missed the point.  99% of the time if you can't write 
down what a method does in at most half a dozen lines, the method is 
screaming out to be refactored.  Rightly or wrongly you've already 
rejected that option, although I suspect that rightly is nearer the mark 
in this case on the grounds that practicality beats purity.

-- 
Cheers.

Mark Lawrence.

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Organisation of python classes and their methods Martin Hewitson <martinhewitson@mac.com> - 2012-11-02 07:16 +0100
  Re: Organisation of python classes and their methods Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2012-11-02 00:38 -0700
    Re: Organisation of python classes and their methods Martin Hewitson <martinhewitson@mac.com> - 2012-11-02 09:08 +0100
      Re: Organisation of python classes and their methods Ulrich Eckhardt <ulrich.eckhardt@dominolaser.com> - 2012-11-02 11:18 +0100
        Re: Organisation of python classes and their methods Martin Hewitson <martinhewitson@me.com> - 2012-11-02 15:49 +0100
        Re: Organisation of python classes and their methods Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-11-02 17:02 +0000
      Re: Organisation of python classes and their methods Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-11-03 01:38 +0000
    Re: Organisation of python classes and their methods Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-11-02 08:40 +0000
      Re: Organisation of python classes and their methods Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-11-02 10:20 +0000
    Re: Organisation of python classes and their methods Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-11-02 20:15 +1100
    Re: Organisation of python classes and their methods Martin Hewitson <martinhewitson@mac.com> - 2012-11-02 09:45 +0100
    Re: Organisation of python classes and their methods Peter Otten <__peter__@web.de> - 2012-11-02 11:21 +0100
    Re: Organisation of python classes and their methods Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-11-02 10:48 +0000
    Re: Organisation of python classes and their methods Robert Kern <robert.kern@gmail.com> - 2012-11-02 10:55 +0000
    Re: Organisation of python classes and their methods Robert Kern <robert.kern@gmail.com> - 2012-11-02 11:07 +0000
  Re: Organisation of python classes and their methods Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-11-03 01:06 +0000
    Re: Organisation of python classes and their methods Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-11-03 01:08 +0000

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