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Re: better and user friendly IDE recommended?

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On 12 September 2013 13:00, Veritatem Ignotam
<veritatem.ignotam@gmail.com> wrote:
> Is this thread going to evolve into your classic vim vs. emacs, sweet!

Who doesn't love those? ;-)

On 09/12/2013 11:47 AM, Paul Rudin wrote:
>
> Joshua Landau <joshua@landau.ws> writes:
>
>> If the time learning a set of tools is enough to make the choice
>> between tools, I suggest avoiding, say, Vim.
>
> That's a big if.
>
> If you expect to spend a lot of time editing text, code, etc. over the
> next few years then it's definitely learning at least one of vim or
> emacs to a reasonable degree of competency.

I kinda disagree. Though I use and love emacs as my main editor,
simple things you take for granted in modern editors are simply not
there, and you end up spending some precious time finding out how to
have it (like a right-margin marker). Of course that's not a real
issue, since in the end you'll have everything and much more after
configuring and saving your .emacs in the cloud so everything is
always to your liking.

But then comes another problem: we don't live in a bubble. If you'll
ever have to use another programmer's box, you're screwed (That's why
I avoid getting used to non-standard packages).

Not to mention the mental switch. Not everything I need to use has
emacs-binding (I guess the same is true for vim-binding) and, most of
the time, the binding sucks anyway.

But the point I really disagree is that typing/editing speed impacts
so much programmer's productivity. In my experience I spend a lot more
time as a programmer (big emphasis on "lot") reading, thinking and
designing then writing code. So I find a good navigation tool more
important.

My solution/suggestion for python: emacs (in cua-mode for me) with Jedi.

Joe

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better and user friendly IDE recommended? mnish1984@gmail.com - 2013-09-11 07:14 -0700
  Re: better and user friendly IDE recommended? Adam Tauno Williams <awilliam@whitemice.org> - 2013-09-11 15:51 -0400
  Re: better and user friendly IDE recommended? Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2013-09-12 09:44 +1000
  Re: better and user friendly IDE recommended? Joshua Landau <joshua@landau.ws> - 2013-09-12 08:09 +0100
    Re: better and user friendly IDE recommended? Paul Rudin <paul.nospam@rudin.co.uk> - 2013-09-12 16:47 +0100
      Re: better and user friendly IDE recommended? Veritatem Ignotam <veritatem.ignotam@gmail.com> - 2013-09-12 12:00 -0400
      Re: better and user friendly IDE recommended? Joe Junior <joe.fbs.junior@gmail.com> - 2013-09-12 14:04 -0300
      Re: better and user friendly IDE recommended? Joshua Landau <joshua@landau.ws> - 2013-09-16 05:42 +0100
  Re: better and user friendly IDE recommended? Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2013-09-12 18:04 +1000
  Re: better and user friendly IDE recommended? Joshua Landau <joshua@landau.ws> - 2013-09-12 11:02 +0100
  Re: better and user friendly IDE recommended? Paul Pittlerson <menkomigen6@gmail.com> - 2013-09-12 03:55 -0700
  Re: better and user friendly IDE recommended? Fabio Zadrozny <fabiofz@gmail.com> - 2013-09-12 09:12 -0300
  Re: better and user friendly IDE recommended? Wayne Werner <wayne@waynewerner.com> - 2013-09-12 09:22 -0500
  Re: better and user friendly IDE recommended? Westley Martínez <anikom15@gmail.com> - 2013-09-12 10:23 -0700
  Re: better and user friendly IDE recommended? Adrián Espinosa <mortuuslordofdeads@gmail.com> - 2013-09-12 14:15 -0700
    Re: better and user friendly IDE recommended? memilanuk <memilanuk@gmail.com> - 2013-09-14 14:22 -0700
      Re: better and user friendly IDE recommended? eric@invalid.com (EricF) - 2013-09-16 02:48 +0000
  Re: better and user friendly IDE recommended? rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2013-09-17 06:56 -0700

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