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| Date | Tue, 11 Jun 2013 17:20:26 +1000 |
| Subject | Re: "Don't rebind built-in names*" - it confuses readers |
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On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 1:30 PM, rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> wrote:
> Or by example:
>
> def foo(x)...
> def bar(x,y)...
> there is no reason to confuse the two xes.
>
> Whereas
>
> x = ...
> def foo(x)...
> Now there is!
>
> The first should be encouraged, the second discouraged.
Again, there can be good reason for it, such as snapshotting globals:
qwer=123
def asdf(qwer=qwer):
print("qwer",qwer)
asdf()
qwer=234
asdf()
Done for performance (avoiding lookups), could also be done for
stability (as depicted here) though I've never seen it needed for
that.
ChrisA
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"Don't rebind built-in names*" - it confuses readers Terry Jan Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2013-06-10 20:14 -0400
Re: "Don't rebind built-in names*" - it confuses readers rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2013-06-10 19:36 -0700
Re: "Don't rebind built-in names*" - it confuses readers Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-06-11 03:02 +0000
Re: "Don't rebind built-in names*" - it confuses readers rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2013-06-10 20:30 -0700
Re: "Don't rebind built-in names*" - it confuses readers Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-06-11 05:52 +0000
Re: "Don't rebind built-in names*" - it confuses readers Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-06-11 17:20 +1000
Re: "Don't rebind built-in names*" - it confuses readers Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-06-11 13:57 +1000
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Re: "Don't rebind built-in names*" - it confuses readers Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-06-13 10:08 +1000
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Re: "Don't rebind built-in names*" - it confuses readers Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-06-13 11:30 +1000
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